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StarTreks perception of alien life forms is dare I say wrong

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:17 pm
by Tigermegatron
Star Treks perception of alien life forms is dare I say WRONG.

The humans on Earth look like the way they due to them adapting to their surrondings.

As we all know,Each planet in the Universe has different enviormental conditions. So if their are humaoid type life forms out their in the Universe on other planets they'd look Drastically different from the humans on the earth. I highly doubt the humanoid differences will just be pointy ears or a forehead that has tons of ridges in it.

Most likely we'd be dealing with severe humoid differences like we've been seeing on all those "UFO" science channels sighting shows. like humanoids looking like those "grey aliens" from Roswell.

I'd imagine these humanoid aliens will come in different colors,have the humanoid shape but it will be diffent.

Depending on how advanced the Alien humanoids are from other planets. They may have lived on their planet for over 40,000 years. They may be sharing info with other planets that have the humanoid form. These humanoid aliens might have found ways to use technology to alter their bodies by becomming cyborgs or cross-breeding with animals/plants/elemets/etc..

Recently on various history channel UFO type documentary shows. Various UFO type scientist are debatting if Big foot is a alien speies from another planet. While this newest scientific theory seems really out their/insane/crazy. I suspose it could make sense,as big foot might be the missing link everyone's looking for.

Even the star trek Borgs seem wrong,as the adapted humanoid forms seem to similar to the basic humanoid earth form. The Borgs cyborgs might be somewhat accurate if they did roswell grey alens turned into borg cybrorgs or insect-humanoids turned into borg cyborg's or big foot aliens turned into borg cyborg's.

Star Trek's perception of humanoid aliens from different planets looking 99% like earth humans is LAUGHABLE at best. I highly doubt the subtle differences will be just green skin or red skin or pointy ears,or fanged teeth or extreme ridges on the forehead.

According to scientific research the humanoid humans have only been on the earth for under 40,000 years. now just imagine how different humanoid aliens from other planets will look like if they've existed on their plant for hundreds of thousands of years or millions of years. while the earth in alone,just imagine how advanced other humanoid forms will be from planets where they share info with other planets full of humanoid life forms.

Whether or not the humanoid form is the ulimate/perfect evolved form of the species in the universe is unknown. I suspose it's even plausable to consider humanoid type intelligent & adgendas existing in alien life forms from other planets who dominant species might be animals or insects or water based creatures or plants or reptiles or birds or ?, who can think like humans & have agendas like humans from earth do.

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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:31 pm
by Sparky Prime
TNG did have an episode that offers an explanation as to why so many aliens in Star Trek have such a similar humanoid form. And then of course there is only so much make-up and special effects they can do within a budget with actors that obviously have to be humanoid....

Although I think it's worth noting that there have been some non-humanoid aliens in Star Trek throughout the years as well. Such as Species 8472 or the Tholians...

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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:07 am
by Almighty Unicron
Sparky Prime wrote:TNG did have an episode that offers an explanation as to why so many aliens in Star Trek have such a similar humanoid form. And then of course there is only so much make-up and special effects they can do within a budget with actors that obviously have to be humanoid....

Although I think it's worth noting that there have been some non-humanoid aliens in Star Trek throughout the years as well. Such as Species 8472 or the Tholians...
Or William Shatner, for that matter. He's more like a ham-golem than a human being.

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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:45 am
by andersonh1
Tigermegatron wrote:Star Treks perception of alien life forms is dare I say WRONG.
Well, yeah. That's why it's called science fiction. It's not real. :lol:

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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:38 pm
by 138 Scourge
Get the eff out of town. You're gonna tell me next that spaceships don't really look like luxury yachts and that faster than light travel is bogus.

Actually, you know, I have a pretty easy time beliving that species that developed on similar planets would have similar shapes. Especially if they have a common ancestor. What stretches my suspension of disbelief a bit more is when these species can interbreed pretty freely. I mean, again, common ancestor I guess, but if, say, Klingons are so anatomically different than humans, it's odd to me that they.can even produce viable hybrids. But hey, whatever. The ol' MST3K mantra covers a multitude of sins.

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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:37 pm
by Sparky Prime
138 Scourge wrote:What stretches my suspension of disbelief a bit more is when these species can interbreed pretty freely. I mean, again, common ancestor I guess, but if, say, Klingons are so anatomically different than humans, it's odd to me that they.can even produce viable hybrids. But hey, whatever. The ol' MST3K mantra covers a multitude of sins.
I recall DS9 had Jadzia and Worf taking some genetic re-sequencing enzymes in order to have children, shortly before Dukat killed Jadzia. They made it sound like it's not so easy to have hybrid children, and required medical intervention to make it possible at least. But like you say, realistically two different species from different planets shouldn't be compatible at all.

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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:54 pm
by Tigermegatron
Yeah,Star treks Cross-breeding the alien species from different planets by having sex should be impossible. As humans can't even get the different earth based animals species to cross-breed with each other by simply having sex. When a lion & a tiger have sex & cross-breed,it's called a Liger,Sadly the Liger is sterile & can't produce any offspring.

Star trek rarely mentions cross-breeding the alien species from different planets using Technology. More often,star trek makes it seem like it's extremely easy to mix the various planets life forms into cross-breeds from simply having sex & no medical/technology intervention.

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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:39 am
by Sparky Prime
I wouldn't really say Star Trek rarely mentions that cross-breeding between species uses the help of technology, so much as they generally don't go into the details of how cross-species hybrids are conceived.

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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:57 am
by andersonh1
Sparky Prime wrote:
138 Scourge wrote:What stretches my suspension of disbelief a bit more is when these species can interbreed pretty freely. I mean, again, common ancestor I guess, but if, say, Klingons are so anatomically different than humans, it's odd to me that they.can even produce viable hybrids. But hey, whatever. The ol' MST3K mantra covers a multitude of sins.
I recall DS9 had Jadzia and Worf taking some genetic re-sequencing enzymes in order to have children, shortly before Dukat killed Jadzia. They made it sound like it's not so easy to have hybrid children, and required medical intervention to make it possible at least. But like you say, realistically two different species from different planets shouldn't be compatible at all.
Yeah, Bashir was medically trying to help Worf and Jadzia so they could conceive. I'm glad they addressed the issue, and of course, it made Jadzia's death all the more tragic.

You mentioned it already I think, but the TNG episode that dealt with the question of why there are so many humanoids in the galaxy was "The Chase". So the writers were aware of the issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase_ ... eneration)

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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:10 am
by Shockwave
There's also the episode with K'Ehlar where she explains that humans and Klingons can produce offspring with help "a little like my parents."

Either way, I would say the alien depiction in Star Trek isn't any worse than any other sci fi property.