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andersonh1 wrote:I suppose it could be one of those "it was all a dream..." type stories. That makes sense. It's just unclear to me what the writer was going for.
The point of the story was to show how Mirage's dodgy beliefs could easily lead him to being a Decepticon, but that he still had qualities that caused him to side with the Autobots.
I'm sorry to say that I didn't get that at all. In fact, I still don't, even thinking about the story in those terms. Mainly because we know so little about Mirage in IDW continuity that I have nothing to compare with the evil version in the story. We don't know what his beliefs are, and whether or not they're dodgy. What is it he tells Ironhide? Something like "Just because I disagree with certain aspects of this war doesn't make me a traitor". That's a long way from the greedy, opportunistic traitor of the spotlight issue.
It was character exploration, something all the Spotlights are supposed to be (even though a lot of them usually aren't).

I really liked the story, myself.
I don't dislike it per se, but it doesn't do anything for me. It's more like "this is what an evil Mirage would be like" and doesn't tell us anything about the genuine article, except that presumably he's nothing like the evil guy in the story.
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Well I can certainly see the concept of a useful competent character getting gimped out and pointlessly killed off as funny. Hell, I've seen some instances where it was downright hilarious.

This was funny more because it was such an idiotic move by DC. DC actually thought that killing of a popular, though minor, character would get more attention and bring in more readers than it would annoy. I know people who just about gave up on DC about 5 years back, in part because of "Identity Crisis". The story itself was just plain crass. (In other words, I am laughing at DC, not with them about the story.) "Identity Crisis" indelibly smeared Sue Dibny.

In the case of IDW Galvatron, I want to see the character destroyed on many levels, just so no writer will want to use them again for years, if at all. Your scenario for this needs a bit of tweaking, but is a step in the right direction.
I suppose it could be one of those "it was all a dream..." type stories. That makes sense. It's just unclear to me what the writer was going for.
I read that story as Mirage having a fever dream, and possibly being a bit nutty. He is definitely having doubts. Given his place in the Autobot ranks, he could definitely do a fair amount of damage to the team. He might even be able to help deliver a fatal blow depending on exactly when he revealed himself.

Note his reaction when the last of the Autobots are being killed. He is not entirely happy about it. It looked like a question of Mirage wanting the war over, but wanting to avoid needless bloodshed. He likely would want the war over as it would be an expensive distraction from other things he would want to see happen.

Prowl's theory does not exclude the story tying in with AHM.
Mainly because we know so little about Mirage in IDW continuity that I have nothing to compare with the evil version in the story. We don't know what his beliefs are, and whether or not they're dodgy.
I tend to think that the best way to look at IDW Mirage is "like the old one, or close enough". Start with the old characer profiles, and work from there. Mirage has doubts about the Autobots and the war. He is smart enough to reflect on these, and question his role. As James McDonough said years ago, Mirage and Thundercracker have a good deal in common.
I don't dislike it per se, but it doesn't do anything for me. It's more like "this is what an evil Mirage would be like" and doesn't tell us anything about the genuine article, except that presumably he's nothing like the evil guy in the story.
The idea is that both have doubts. Mirage would not be much happier if he switched sides and became a Decepticon, as shown in the story.

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Dominic wrote:I read that story as Mirage having a fever dream, and possibly being a bit nutty. He is definitely having doubts. Given his place in the Autobot ranks, he could definitely do a fair amount of damage to the team. He might even be able to help deliver a fatal blow depending on exactly when he revealed himself.

Note his reaction when the last of the Autobots are being killed. He is not entirely happy about it. It looked like a question of Mirage wanting the war over, but wanting to avoid needless bloodshed. He likely would want the war over as it would be an expensive distraction from other things he would want to see happen.

The idea is that both have doubts. Mirage would not be much happier if he switched sides and became a Decepticon, as shown in the story.
Both of these would certainly make sense out of the story.
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I bought a used one a few years back. Some of the joints were a little loose, but it's still a good Transformer. Worth having.
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It is the fact that IFW uses the G1 character model that makes me want a G1 Mirage. Between the fact it is expensive to begin with, and me being super picky about condition, I doubt this will happen for a while, if ever.

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I bought a G1 Mirage at Botcon. It was in perfect shape except for being snapped in half and I was willing to fix that. I Think I got that for about 40-some odd dollars. Complete. Fixed the peg holding the whole thing together and I had me a perfectly good Mirage. Which I then sold along with most of my other G1s. I somehow still have my Classics one with the reprolabels upgrade kit on it.
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$40 for a broken figure is ridiculous. I have paid less for figures in better condition. ($1 for G1 Onslaught, five cents for Shockwave.)
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People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
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It took me like two seconds to fix it and I had a non broken complete Mirage with decent chrome even. And let's face it, your 5cent Shockwave is not the norm by any means.
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Very true, especially since I think this Shockwave was tampered with, because his inner rods eventually broke.
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
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Oooohhh yeah, and trust me when I say that is not an easy thing to fix. My Mirage only needed to have a peg glued. Very easy. If I never take apart another Shockwave it'll be too soon.
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I bought a G1 Shockwave a few years back for, I think, $30. The electronics still work and the rubber hose on the arm is still intact. About the only flaw it has is that one of the knees is broken. The teeth in the ratchet are partially gone, but presumably I could buy a junker and replace that at some point. Considering what I've seen Shockwave going for elsewhere, I considered that a good price for the figure.
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