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Onslaught Six wrote:Usually we get some pictures, though, or some announcements. There is LITERALLY nothing at this con. It's terrifying.
Last year Botcon switched dates with Joecon,the end result was hasbro showing less new stuff. Many on-line TF fans speculated this was because Toy fair showed everything new 5 weeks ago.

http://www.comic-con.org/ SDCC 2013's Con will take place one week before Botcon's con in 2013 http://www.botcon.com/BotCon2013/ So even if botcon shows nothing new,it's a strong guarantee SDCC will deliver tons of newer TF toys/media reveals at the con.
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Onslaught Six wrote:Of course you can't find it easily at market...it's not out yet. :P It's the extent of saying you don't care about the upcoming Springer until it's already out.
IF IT'S NOT OUT YET THEN IT'S NOT EASILY FOUND AT MARKET WHEN I AM TRYING TO CARE ABOUT IT. Doy. ;)

I am not going to care about buying this product a few months down the road when they finally get off their asses and put something good out. I barely care now.

Onslaught Six wrote:Nah, none of that stuff is "new," it's all stuff that's been confirmed to be out for months.

Incidentally, Hasbro announced this morning at their panel that the new stuff would be delayed until July, and the May release date from Toyfair was an "error." Glad to know this NOW, Jesus. So basically what's out now is EVERYTHING that will be out until JULY. Also, they're not showing ANY new product this weekend, PERIOD, except what's already been announced. What a fucking joke!

At least the July pushback gives me time to save money and also buy another Red Ninja or two, since they cancelled the sort-of-movie-accurate one!
That's pretty badly bungled, the same product on shelves for a year and a half is not a good way to market a line. This is Joe's only expression right now and it's terrible AND overpriced AND incapable of fully exploiting the buzz coming off the movie's release. Nobody is going to care when the DVD comes out so it's strike now or forever hold your piece. That's a real shame.

Dominic wrote:-does Hasbro even want to sell toys any more?
No, but that's their bread and butter until they can make all their money off of IP. The irony is that by doing this they're shooting the IP they're trying to develop in the foot.

Onslaught Six wrote:To be fair, it was only 'close enough' accurate to the film. It's basically an ROC Storm Shadow with webgear from a cancelled Storm Shadow from the original POC line (and recently released on a multipack Snake Eyes). It was closer to the film version than the Red Ninja we got before, but that guy is objectively a better toy anyway. (I was only going to pick up one of the movie accurate ones, to act as a squad leader.)

Hasbro said there was "no room for it," which says to me that they ran out of budget somewhere.

http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gall ... dNinja.JPG
I would guess more likely that they have too many ninjas on pegs right now and retailers wouldn't buy it.
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I would guess more likely that they have too many ninjas on pegs right now and retailers wouldn't buy it.
It's interesting you say that, because he was scheduled for "Wave 4" which has Blind Master, Jinx, and a Night Viper (as well as a few carry-overs like Colton and Lady Jaye, and presumably a few from Wave 3), which would already give it quite a few ninjas.
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Onslaught Six wrote:
I would guess more likely that they have too many ninjas on pegs right now and retailers wouldn't buy it.
It's interesting you say that, because he was scheduled for "Wave 4" which has Blind Master, Jinx, and a Night Viper (as well as a few carry-overs like Colton and Lady Jaye, and presumably a few from Wave 3), which would already give it quite a few ninjas.
Wow, yeah, I can see why they held it back. Also, Target and I think TRU have exclusive sets with ninjas in them that should still be on shelves by then.
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I checked a couple of Targets in the last few days. (It has been better walking weather.

Aside from a few new 3 packs (which were not there a few weeks ago), all I found were the same wave 1 figures and cycles that have been sitting there for the last few months.

No, but that's their bread and butter until they can make all their money off of IP. The irony is that by doing this they're shooting the IP they're trying to develop in the foot.
The toys are the gateway to the IP though. Hasbro used to use the IP to bring people to the toys. Now, they need to use toys to bring people to the IP.

I am all over IDW's "Cobra" book. I am loving it. But, IDW has not inspired me to buy a single Joe figure. I almost want to customize a few. But, that is different. But, "Cobra" is not a kid friendly book. (It actually has a legit parental advisory.) That comic is not going to bring in younger fans. And, existing comics fans are only going to try and sign on for so many books at a time.


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-Steel Bridage Trooper: Not much to say that I have not already said when I got one of these last year. I grabbed this one for the same of customizing. I need to sort through my bits box. But, I do have some (exceptionally) vague ideas.

-"Pursuit of Cobra" Duke:
I initially picked this up for the sake of customizing in to Trooper Cuu from "Gaunt's Ghosts".
http://www.yojoe.com/action/10/duke42.shtml

This Duke even has a menacing looking knife.

The only problem I can see is that making a good figure of Trooper Cuu is that it would obligate me to make the rest of the Tanith Ghost regiment, which would get expensive. But, damn......

In any case, this is a solid Duke figure on its own, and is unique for being the only rendition of the character (in plastic) that is not a clean-cut hero. If anything, this Duke looks more like Kaspar Hauser (on a bad day) than Conrad Hauser.

The "Pursuit of Cobra" is an odd Joe line, being to "GI Joe" as a whole what all of the "yellow package" TF toys ("Reveal the Shield" and "Hunt for the Decepticons") were to "Transformers" in late 2010. In other words, "Pursuit of Cobra" is an example of confused and vague branding. The character descriptions do not quite match the movies or other established sources. The moulding of the figures is not consistent with the movies. (This Duke more strongly resembles Marcus from "Terminator: Salvation" than it does Channing Tatum's Duke from "Rise of Cobra".) This is just sort of a vague "Duke" figure that was sold as part of a vague "GI Joe" line.

There is no Duke figure (out of damned near 50 others) that even slightly resembles the sculpt of "tone" of this one. The two nearest precedents in fiction that I can come up with are still pretty tenuous. The first is the wheelchair bound fanatic seen in the dystopian future shown in DDP's second Joe/TF crossover. The other is the traitor from "GI Joe: ReLoaded". But, even the latter Duke looked like he would purchase or cook his meals, rather than stalking and eating his fellow man. (Seriously. Look at the figure! How often to I post links to pictures of toys that I have not taken myself? I did that for a reason here.)

If there was a dedicated SG Joe line, this toy likely would have been repurposed for Fun Publications to be SG Duke.


Grade: A (if only for being so damned interesting).


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That Duke is part of the "Jungle Attack" subline, which was largely said by Hasbro (and pointed out by a lot of fans) to be a major homage to the movie Predator. The Jungle Recondo and Spirit released around the same time bear more than a passing resemblance to Jesse Ventura and Sonny Landham's characters.) Shadow Tracker is widely believed to resemble the Predator alien for the same reason.

It's interesting, though, because originally "Pursuit of Cobra" was going to be an extension of ROC, not unlike NEST for ROTF, and less like HFTD/"yellowbox" was. There are even prototypes around for that same Duke with a Channing Tater noggin on it. (I suspect retailers weren't going to take anything that even resembled ROC after the stock fiasco, and some Wal-Marts didn't even bother with POC at all.)

You're right about POC being kind of confused about it, though, but the good news is that Hasbro didn't let that stop them from making a bunch of kickass toys. Some of the POC guys are so cool and unique that I had to get them, even if I already had multiple (or even "correct") versions of the character. For example, the POC Firefly is just awesome, and the Zartan is actually my default Zartan now.
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
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Since this is the G.I Joe thread,I'll post this here.

I just saw a episode of the RAH G.I Joe on the Hub Network. The title of the episode was called " Synthoid Conspiracy" part 1. In this episode,Shipwreck grabs Scarlet in a semi-inappropriate manner,Scarlet then responds by slapping Shipwreck & gives him a semi-threat to stay away. WOW THEY COULD NEVER GET AWAY WITH SHOWING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN 2013 kids cartoons,CLEARLY THE 80'S GOT AWAY WITH TONS OF STUFF.
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I've got two replies here, 'cos I can't tell if Tigs is being sarcastic:

*If not sarcastic*
But they broadcast it in 2013!

*If sarcastic*
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Originally aired October 7th, 1985. I think what TM means is they couldn't have tried to write content like that today where they got away with it before. And here's the content in question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -oI#t=160s

Ha! Shipwreck has a bad case of the notgays, don't worry buddy, we'll keep your secret. ;)
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