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Nice cover :)
I always liked the first half of that song, but then it suddenly turns into this weird, peppy music. The first time I ever heard the song all the way through, I was shocked. Like, what's this part?! They never NEVER used it anywhere in the Highlander shows or movies. They (smartly) just start looping the cool part. ;)

Zulli's art is cool, but I don't like it as TMNT art. His turtles look way too ripped to be lean, flexible ninja types. Now, if it were Teenage Mutant Barbarian Turtles, we'd be good.
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Mako Crab wrote:Zulli's art is cool, but I don't like it as TMNT art. His turtles look way too ripped to be lean, flexible ninja types. Now, if it were Teenage Mutant Barbarian Turtles, we'd be good.
Speaking of barbarian Turtles, where did Slash come from?
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Sparky Prime wrote:
Mako Crab wrote:Zulli's art is cool, but I don't like it as TMNT art. His turtles look way too ripped to be lean, flexible ninja types. Now, if it were Teenage Mutant Barbarian Turtles, we'd be good.
Speaking of barbarian Turtles, where did Slash come from?
Cartoon character. Unless you mean his actual origin story? Bebop and Rocksteady made him to do their chores. Yes, seriously. Although in the Archie comic, apparently he...uh. He was an alien who looked like a turtle.

So. Um.
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
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Onslaught Six wrote:Cartoon character. Unless you mean his actual origin story? Bebop and Rocksteady made him to do their chores. Yes, seriously. Although in the Archie comic, apparently he...uh. He was an alien who looked like a turtle.

So. Um.
Well forget Rex, Macky, Green, and Hardyboy. Looks like this movie's going to feature the adventures of Slash, Slash, Slash, and Slash. Trained by their rat-alien master Slash to take down the evil Slash, with help from that girl Slash O'Neil and the vigilante Slash Jones.

I always dug Slash as a kid, but I think everyone at that age likes 'evil counterpart' type characters.
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I mean origin... I see for the comic he was an alien (so... yeah), but I'm not clear on his cartoon origin. Was he a mutant? Someplace I saw it listed he came from Dimension X.
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Onslaught Six wrote:Some things are understandable, and for the most part the 2003 cartoon is pretty good (I've only seen maybe 13 episodes between the first three seasons or so, but I liked them) but there's just some really niggly stuff in there. I mean, I can understand not wanting to water down the brand but he had (and still has) a huge vendetta against pretty much anything brought in from the 1987 cartoon.
I feel it. Imagine your music that you worked hard on to get just right was used as part of a popular birthday clown act.
138 Scourge wrote:Well, I'll weigh in on this one. I straight up don't understand the motivation behind revamping the Turtle's origins in this thing. Are space aliens ninjas that much more feasible than mutated animals? It's especially baffling because Bay's other remakes have stayed faithful enough to the origins of the franchise characters...Jason's still a weird little kid who drowned and then decided to take it out on screaming teenagers. Freddy's still a creepy dude that really loved kids who got torched and decided to take it out on screaming teenagers. Leatherface is still from a cannibal clan in Texas that's all crazy and decided to take it out on screaming...damn, maybe horror movies are a bit repetitive. If it's just a way to gloss over the origin and get right to turtles beating the bejesus out of some chumps, that's all right and all. But if the entire thing's gonna be "space turtles adapting to their new world" then I'll just pass.
Bay seems to have a hate-on for anything '80s toy-related, he doesn't see toys as having any value, nor stories derived from toys (I guess he doesn't know or care that TMNT's real origins are comics).
Mako Crab wrote:Even better idea.

The 4 Turtles were banished from their homeworld and sent to Earth. Earth would be like this big dumping ground for criminals from the turtle planet. And they're immortal. Yeeahh. . . . yeah, and in fact, the turtles INVENTED ninjitsu and the martial arts! YES! That's it! They've been on Earth that long! Yeah! And then, in present day New York some more alien turtles show up to kill them, because. . . well just because. And Queen needs to do the soundtrack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ1WyBGG_Vw
You're giving Highlander 2 a bad name, comparing it to this TMNT reboot. :p
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JediTricks wrote:
Onslaught Six wrote:
Bay seems to have a hate-on for anything '80s toy-related, he doesn't see toys as having any value, nor stories derived from toys (I guess he doesn't know or care that TMNT's real origins are comics).
It's not just Bay. Before it became the billion-dollar movie series that it is, no one wanted anything to do with a lowly children's toy. And even after it started raking in the money for Paramount, a lot of people involved in it still see it as something to be ashamed of.
You're giving Highlander 2 a bad name, comparing it to this TMNT reboot. :p
Hehehe. As I recall, there was a later edit of Highlander 2 that removed all the alien stuff, because people hated it so much. I'd be interested in seeing that version, but wonder how the story would still work without that bit of backstory.
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Mako Crab wrote:
JediTricks wrote:
Onslaught Six wrote:
Bay seems to have a hate-on for anything '80s toy-related, he doesn't see toys as having any value, nor stories derived from toys (I guess he doesn't know or care that TMNT's real origins are comics).
It's not just Bay. Before it became the billion-dollar movie series that it is, no one wanted anything to do with a lowly children's toy. And even after it started raking in the money for Paramount, a lot of people involved in it still see it as something to be ashamed of.
Bay however actively voiced his disdain for toys, saying that when he was a child he played sports instead and had no time for toys, and as such he worked hard to get away from anything from the toys in Transformers. Other toy brands have not had that level of disrespect from their helmers in the past, look at the GI Joe movie, even the He-man movie wasn't changing for changes' sake.
You're giving Highlander 2 a bad name, comparing it to this TMNT reboot. :p
Hehehe. As I recall, there was a later edit of Highlander 2 that removed all the alien stuff, because people hated it so much. I'd be interested in seeing that version, but wonder how the story would still work without that bit of backstory.
Yeah, in the '90s there was a director's cut that took out the alien aspect and then a second pass on it about 8 years ago that fixed some special effects, those versions added in cut scenes and changed the order of the film as well. It was interesting, but it's still hard to get the original out of one's head, and that future really didn't fit with Highlander no matter what they did.
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I've never seen Highlander.
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Shockwave wrote:I've never seen Highlander.
You should, it's pretty good for what it is. It's an interesting fantasy adventure action film, very '80s in many ways but no less entertaining for it. Plus, Clancy Brown puts in a great performance as the villain, Kurgan.
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