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Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:23 pm
by BWprowl
Shockwave wrote:I'm with Dom on this one, Because of Energon Rodimus, Hot Shot belongs there as much as Side Burn or Cheetor. I also don't recall anywhere where Hot Shot was being groomed for leadership, but I missed a LOT of Armada.
He gets the Matrix halfway through. And is colored exactly like Hot Rod in his Powerlinx scheme. And his name in Japan IS Hot Rod.

There's also the point that Hot Shot becomes Rodimus's Powerlinx Buddy in Energon, putting an interesting spin on the whole thing. You could almost argue that Hot Shot is the Hot Rod equivalent with Rodimus as the Rodimus Prime analogue, the combining being a unique interepretation of the relationship between the two.

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:43 pm
by Dominic
But, do any of us really think that Furman or Wildman was thinking of that?

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:57 pm
by BWprowl
Dominic wrote:But, do any of us really think that Furman or Wildman was thinking of that?
Maybe not the second part, but
I wrote:He gets the Matrix halfway through. And is colored exactly like Hot Rod in his Powerlinx scheme. And his name in Japan IS Hot Rod.
All that, definitely. Ticks all the boxes, checkity-check, he's a Hot Rod.

Considering Hot Rod also sees the G2 version of himself, who is the exact same character just in a slightly different timeline, I'd say there's plenty of precedent for Hot Shot and Rodimus (who may even be one from the cartoon and the other from the comics) to both be there. I also think you're grievously overthinking it; the panel wasn't about "Who is Hot Rod in each continuity" it was just "Look at all these different variations on Hot Rod!"

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:26 am
by andersonh1
BWprowl wrote:I don't know how it counts as a 'screw up', given that the parameters for the scene were likely 'Draw every Hot Rod homage you can think of', I'd say they succeeded well.
Agreed. We're not looking for every character who fills the same role as Hot Rod/Rodimus, we're just looking at variations of Hot Rod himself. It's as simple as that. Hot Rod decos don't make a character Hot Rod. Powerlinx Hot Shot is not Hot Rod, so he shouldn't be included. And the Japanese characters are irrelevant since this series is written for Western Marvel continuity, not Japanese.

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:54 pm
by Onslaught Six
Then how do you explain this fucking guy?!

I mean, like it or not, in Japan, that guy is named 'Hot Rod.' so he fits. I mean, jeez.

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:44 pm
by BWprowl
andersonh1 wrote:Powerlinx Hot Shot is not Hot Rod, so he shouldn't be included.
What about the fact that WfC Hot Shot is named Hot Shot and not Hot Rod? Should he not be included either?

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:24 am
by andersonh1
Onslaught Six wrote:Then how do you explain this fucking guy?!

I mean, like it or not, in Japan, that guy is named 'Hot Rod.' so he fits. I mean, jeez.
He looks like a Hot Rod/Rodimus to me, so no reason he couldn't be in that group.
BWprowl wrote:
andersonh1 wrote:Powerlinx Hot Shot is not Hot Rod, so he shouldn't be included.
What about the fact that WfC Hot Shot is named Hot Shot and not Hot Rod? Should he not be included either?
I don't care who gets excluded, I'm more concerned about who was included. Nothing says that panel of Rodimii has to be 100% complete and comprehensive.

Man, we'll argue about the strangest details. :lol:

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:11 am
by Shockwave
BWprowl wrote:
andersonh1 wrote:Powerlinx Hot Shot is not Hot Rod, so he shouldn't be included.
What about the fact that WfC Hot Shot is named Hot Shot and not Hot Rod? Should he not be included either?
I don't recall seeing anyone named either Hot Shot or Hot Rod in War For Cybertron.

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:38 am
by BWprowl
Shockwave wrote:I don't recall seeing anyone named either Hot Shot or Hot Rod in War For Cybertron.
Bwa-Boom!

Re: Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:43 am
by Sparky Prime
Shockwave wrote:I don't recall seeing anyone named either Hot Shot or Hot Rod in War For Cybertron.
He was only in the Nintendo DS version. They named him Hot Shot because of the usual trademark issues they have with Hot Rod.