"Generations" Minicons

The modern comics universe has had such a different take on G1, one that's significantly represented by the Generations toys, so they share a forum. A modern take on a Real Cybertronian Hero. Currently starring Generations toys, IDW "The Transformers" comics, MTMTE, TF vs GI Joe, and Windblade. Oh wait, and now Skybound, wheee!
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Dominic wrote:Thanks Sparky. That is the thread.

JT, what do you mean "Kreo-forming"? I am not seeing it.

Given how light the plastic is, I am not sure that weight would be a problem on Runway's shoulders or the super-combiner's hips.
The hips are clearly kreoforming, they use the jet parts from 2 copies of Runway as the thighs (as well as bolstering them with the gun from Windshear for each in one of the 2 possible combines). The arms are really just holding Heavytread's cannons with Windshear and Runway attached. The other mode uses a third Runway's weapon as the shoulder. It's too much cheating, facade-building, and merge parts for my tastes, but it's clever.

Runway's shoulders barely can stay on the figure as-is, much less bear any weight. Basically, any lateral movement would cause those ball joints to fail spectacularly. That's ultimately what makes me pass on it.
TM wrote:Jedi,Might be on to something. Usually they guys who create these fan made combiners. Do use various building blocks toys sets,rubber bands,tape,glue & so forth.
That's not what I mean by kreoforming, I mean it in the classic sense, they took parts from the figures and had to remove them and reassemble them on the figure rather than just transforming.

It's not a difficult layout really, just use the gun parts as merge parts and the rest is easy. The only oddball is how Heavytread's connection point is jammed into one of the barrels of Runway's weapon as a thigh. The rest is entirely standard 5mm peg and hole connections.

Dom wrote:Another source of difficulty is getting the tank's gun to work as a shoulder connector. I am not sure if it is question of the turret's side pegs being too small of the jet's hands being too loose.
In the 3-set mode, the turret shouldn't be held by the jet hand at all, the side pegs shouldn't be attached to anything, you can see that the jet hand is not near it, it's folded down and facing backwards at an angle where it couldn't grip the turret shoulder. No, the turret shoulder is attached to the Windshear gun which is then attached to Windshear's forearm, that's the only way that shoulder is attached to the combiner.

In 2-set mode where the turret that turret isn't designed by the combiner arms to be held that way, the pegs are too short, they get jammed in at an angle that should fall apart at the drop of a hat.
So, yeah, it can be done. I even came up with a slight tweak to the legs on the two-team super-combiner mode. But, the frustration involved goes up proportionate to the number of Minicon teams you are trying to combine.
It can be done insomuch as it's a stack of parts vaguely held together in one pose viewed from one angle, but with those parts not designed to bear that much weight and some elements cheating to get by, it's destined to fall apart or break entirely.
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I'm not a registered member on that TFW2005 board. Can someone here who is,please do me a favor. Can you post a reply in that thread link postedin this thread & ask the guy to post a You Tube video showing how he combined 2 & 3 sets of these generations Minicons.

I'm curious to find out what size level combining 2 or 3 sets bumps these toys up toy. using one set creates a deluxe sized toy. does using 2 or 3 sets at least bump this up to a voyager or ultra sized toy?

I'd be hestitant to try this for 2 main reasons. 1- one set has decent poseabilty in combined mode. The more sets you add,the more articulation gets taken away. 2- ball joints on the smaller scale toys can not handle the stress of anymore additional weight tacked on to them. putting more than the official weight on these tiny ball joints will result in the ball joints & sockets wearing away & getting permant floppy articulated joints.

I might be tempted to try this if using 2 or 3 sets bumbps up the deluxe scale to voyager or ultra.

Someone on that TFW2005 board in that thread had a great repaint idea for the one set minicons that form a deluxe toy. A TFW2005 member suggested Hasbro or TFCC Recolor the toys in Technobots/Abonimus colors. This way this deluxe combiner could face off against the BH Deluxe sized Abonimus. Personally,When I read this,I thought it was pure brillant. Will it happen,Probably not. at best a fan might take some paint & paint up these toys. Needless to say,I dislike fan hand painted TF toys. As they look sloppy,can't be transformed with ruining the paint & so forth.
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Shockwave wrote:I have no trouble believing that it's possible. After all, I was at one point able to combine the ROTF Constructicons into a better looking Devastator. One version even had Dirtboss turning into a cycloptic Shockwave-esque head.
Yeah, and that was cool and all, but really, anything would be a better-looking Devastator. Now, had you managed to make a worse-looking one, that'd have been something.
Dominic wrote: too many people likely would have enjoyed it as....well a house-elf gang-bang.
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138 Scourge wrote:
Shockwave wrote:I have no trouble believing that it's possible. After all, I was at one point able to combine the ROTF Constructicons into a better looking Devastator. One version even had Dirtboss turning into a cycloptic Shockwave-esque head.
Yeah, and that was cool and all, but really, anything would be a better-looking Devastator. Now, had you managed to make a worse-looking one, that'd have been something.
Hm. I should post pics of Legostator.

Which is exactly what it sounds like.
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