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Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:19 pm
by Tigermegatron
I realize this is a TF toy forum...

But turning this thread via replies into a brat whinning about toys not getting toys created/shipped Is kinda juvenile behavior from those posting those replies.

Can't we have a serious topic here & talk about the worlds current events,without the need to point fingers,mock each other & post juvenlie replies like "oh he just cares about the toys & not the lives of those in the war"

Yes some of those areas/cities/countries have communist dictators & Goverments but this doesn't mean they whip the workers & force them to go to work every day. If war broke out in that region,the workers would be scarred to go to work & quit their jobs. they made next to nothing to begin with,they can & will quit & look for work in more safer areas.

If war broke out that whole region would have a huge buleye on it,it will effect everything in that region not just N & S. Korea. China according to CNN is worried the most because they know it will spell doom for they manufactoring/labors & piers shipping in/out.
HAVING THE ENTIRE WORLD/UN PUT A BULLEYE ON THAT REGION IS THE EQUIVELANT OF THE GERMANY HITLER YEARS BUT WORSE SINCE THAT REGION IS SO OVER ACTIVE IN MAKING STUFF & SHIPPING IT OUT TO EVERYONE IN THE WORLD.

Sanctions will sting more than missles,which will cause the manufactoring & piers in that region to shut down,pause,delay or work a a much slower production levels pace.

Anyone can clearly see that part of the region makes more than toys. they make clothes,electronics,cars,car parts,toys, food,medical stuff,etc.. HAVING ANY/MOST/PARTIAL OF THESE MANUFACTORTING PLANTS SHUT DOWN,WORK AT A SLOWER PACE Will spell economic disaster for the entire world,as all contries in the world outsource manufactorting & labor to that part of the region.

like I said,their is no way to catch up in production once stuff shuts down for a perior or work force goes slower.

The effects on the piers in that region will be a total nightmare. as the exports & imports will get shipped out/in at much slower paces. some piers will close,others will work slower,the work force will get reduced in huge margins.

Worse of all if production slows down around may thru august in those manufactoring plants & the piers close down or slow down productivity shipping in/out. THESE ARE KEY CHRISTMAS SEASON ORDERING MONTHS FOR ALMOST ALL THE CONTRIES AROUND THE WORLD. NOBODY PLACES ORDERS IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER,THE CHRISTMAS ORDERS ARE DONE/FILLED & SHIPPED OUT BEFORE AUGUST/SEPTEMBER ARRIVES. AS IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THOSE HUGE BOATS TO TRAVEL THE OCEANS & DROP OFF THOSE MERCHANDISE CONTAINERS ALONG THE WAY TO COUNTRIES THAT ORDERED THE STUFF.

The world can't handle a economic shut down or delays. not when the downward spiral economy has already sucked the life out of profits already. most of the worlds companies/stores usually depend on the christmas season buying months to come out of the red & go into the black. that's why we have a day after thankgiving called "Black friday"

Having shelves/stores empty during the christmas season months due to the slow down/shut down in manufactoring over seas & due to the piers over seas shutting down or slowing down production DARE I SAY WILL BE LEAPS & BOUNDS WORSE THAN THE 1920'S/1930'S STOCK MARKET CHRASH. As this effects everything including the stock market & consumer confidence without confidence people don't support & buy the products thus the economoy gets worse.

IF ANYONE THINKS THIS WON'T SPELL DOOM FOR THE GLOBAL ECONOMY THEY ARE EITHER MIS-INFORMED OR NAIEVE.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:09 pm
by JediTricks
Tigermegatron wrote:Jedi,I can't link to any source info,Because like I said in this thread,I am getting all my source info from the CNN network that I watch on my TV via cable.

CNN Analyst,China,S Korea & even N. Korea have said that if war broke out in that Region if could spell disaster for all those manufactoring places,laborers,piers that ship & receive. because we are talking about possible missles attacking N korea & all it's bases,huge jets destroying their nuclear facilities/bases.

CNN Analyst ,China,S. Korea & N Korea said if war broke out in that region,they would chase the laborers away & tell them to go home & not report to their manufactoring jobs. This will cause delays in the mass production of goods.

any attacks the UN does on the oceans in that region will most definately shut down the piers or make them ship out/in at a much slower pace.
But those manufacturing facilities, laborers, piers, shipping ports that they're talking about are on the Korean Peninsula, 1200 miles from China's main manufacturing center. A war with North Korea will affect South Korean manufacturing significantly, but unless China enters the war too it has no reason to suffer any slowdowns whatsoever. I really think you misunderstood the context of what you were watching. Korean goods leave via the Sea of Japan while Chinese goods leave via the South China Sea which are over 1500 miles apart.

Korean manufacturing will surely be affected, things like Samsung cellphones and Hyundai cars will suffer a slowdown. But Chinese goods are not the same thing.
Thanks for being the only "other" RATIONAL voice in this thread.

I often feel the internet forum fans biggest downfall is not being able to have the ability to look outside the box. they need to see it on paper or have it physically happen to believe it. often times the averae internet fan is not equipped with the Analyst/speculation/research gene that gives others the abilty to predict events & out comes based off past events
Dude, you're fearmongering based on ignorance and ignoring the evidence I'm giving you outside the CNN box. I promise you, I'm being exceptionally rational, I'm trying to clearly explain this and I have facts to back it up. http://csr.hasbro.com/downloads/Hasbro_factories.pdf
Those factories are in Guangdong, most are in Shenzhen and some are in Dongguan which is the next city over in the same province. Look at the map: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=guangdon ... na&t=m&z=5
Notice that the Korean Peninsula is waaaay up there towards the top of China, and Guangdong is way down at the bottom, and the scale is 200 miles to the inch. Note that Guangdong is on the inlet that includes Macau and Hong Kong, China's main shipping ports.

You are doomsaying based on half-heard and poorly-understood things without looking them up to even be sure you're right, much less they're right.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:28 pm
by Tigermegatron
JediTricks wrote:
Tigermegatron wrote:Jedi,I can't link to any source info,Because like I said in this thread,I am getting all my source info from the CNN network that I watch on my TV via cable.

CNN Analyst,China,S Korea & even N. Korea have said that if war broke out in that Region if could spell disaster for all those manufactoring places,laborers,piers that ship & receive. because we are talking about possible missles attacking N korea & all it's bases,huge jets destroying their nuclear facilities/bases.

CNN Analyst ,China,S. Korea & N Korea said if war broke out in that region,they would chase the laborers away & tell them to go home & not report to their manufactoring jobs. This will cause delays in the mass production of goods.

any attacks the UN does on the oceans in that region will most definately shut down the piers or make them ship out/in at a much slower pace.
But those manufacturing facilities, laborers, piers, shipping ports that they're talking about are on the Korean Peninsula, 1200 miles from China's main manufacturing center. A war with North Korea will affect South Korean manufacturing significantly, but unless China enters the war too it has no reason to suffer any slowdowns whatsoever. I really think you misunderstood the context of what you were watching. Korean goods leave via the Sea of Japan while Chinese goods leave via the South China Sea which are over 1500 miles apart.

Korean manufacturing will surely be affected, things like Samsung cellphones and Hyundai cars will suffer a slowdown. But Chinese goods are not the same thing.
Thanks for being the only "other" RATIONAL voice in this thread.

I often feel the internet forum fans biggest downfall is not being able to have the ability to look outside the box. they need to see it on paper or have it physically happen to believe it. often times the averae internet fan is not equipped with the Analyst/speculation/research gene that gives others the abilty to predict events & out comes based off past events
Dude, you're fearmongering based on ignorance and ignoring the evidence I'm giving you outside the CNN box. I promise you, I'm being exceptionally rational, I'm trying to clearly explain this and I have facts to back it up. http://csr.hasbro.com/downloads/Hasbro_factories.pdf
Those factories are in Guangdong, most are in Shenzhen and some are in Dongguan which is the next city over in the same province. Look at the map: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=guangdon ... na&t=m&z=5
Notice that the Korean Peninsula is waaaay up there towards the top of China, and Guangdong is way down at the bottom, and the scale is 200 miles to the inch. Note that Guangdong is on the inlet that includes Macau and Hong Kong, China's main shipping ports.

You are doomsaying based on half-heard and poorly-understood things without looking them up to even be sure you're right, much less they're right.
1,200 miles away is a extemly tiny distance,your acting like it's 12,000 miles away.

on CNN china expressed concerns & said it will effect their economy as far as manufactoring shuts down,pauses,delays,workers quiting. slow downs in production levels. China also expressed concerns regarding the piers as far as exports/imorts shipping in/out goes. THESE ARE CNN'S & CHINA WORDS & analysist teams are concerned.

Were dealing with the entire US & UN armies attacking that region with jets & possible missles. surely their will be fears among the work force. they make pennies as it is,they are not willing to risk their lives as they live simple lives to begin with. they'd most likely get scarred & stay home or quit their low income jobs.

GM & China in that region. have already expressed fears.

thus far n korean official told the s korean factories to clear out it's work force.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:54 am
by Gomess
Tigermegatron wrote:often times the averae internet fan is not equipped with the Analyst/speculation/research gene that gives others the abilty to predict events & out comes based off past events
*War* is not inevitable. An *invasion* is possible. Please don't assume you're the most informed or intelligent person on this board, Tigs.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:46 am
by JediTricks
1,200 miles away is a extemly tiny distance,your acting like it's 12,000 miles away.
It's "tiny"? That alone should prove how reactionary you are being, 1200 miles is 4 times as many miles as North Korea itself is top to bottom.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:52 pm
by Dominic
The make or break factor will be North Korea itself. How rational/irrational is the regime?

There could be violence, if not a formal war. North Korea may well provoke the US and/or other countries with a sitation where conflict is inevitable. If that is the case, we can only hope that it does not involve us confronting China or another major state and that the violence is as contained as possible. Hopefully China, which has no interest in a war when they can make more money in (relative) peace will reign in the North Koreans.

Regardless of the military consequences, the economic impact would be significant.


Dom
-ideally, North Korea will just implode.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:56 pm
by Tigermegatron
JediTricks wrote:
1,200 miles away is a extemly tiny distance,your acting like it's 12,000 miles away.
It's "tiny"? That alone should prove how reactionary you are being, 1200 miles is 4 times as many miles as North Korea itself is top to bottom.
FWIW,Japan is about the size of Texas. In the america states from NY TO CA,1,200 miles is nothing as the distance from NY TO CA is far greater than 1,200 distance miles apart. ESPECIALLY WHEN WHERE DEALING WITH THE TYPE OF WAR FARE (Missles/nuclear weapons,poisons gases,fighter jets armed to the teeth with long range missles) N. KOREA,THE UN & USA ARE CAPABLE OF IF THIS WAR BREAKS OUT IN FULL OR PARTIAL POWER.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:32 pm
by Onslaught Six
Tigermegatron wrote:FWIW,Japan is about the size of Texas.
No, Texas is about 1.75 times the size of Japan.
In the america states from NY TO CA,1,200 miles is nothing as the distance from NY TO CA is far greater than 1,200 distance miles apart. ESPECIALLY WHEN WHERE DEALING WITH THE TYPE OF WAR FARE (Missles/nuclear weapons,poisons gases,fighter jets armed to the teeth with long range missles) N. KOREA,THE UN & USA ARE CAPABLE OF IF THIS WAR BREAKS OUT IN FULL OR PARTIAL POWER.
Here, check this out:
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=303% ... =5&t=m&z=5

(That's as close as I could get the cursor to North Korea; I'm assuming they have some kind of block on Google Maps that doesn't let them go there.)

North Korea is pretty far from China.

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:59 pm
by Almighty Unicron
So I'm guessing this Tigermegatron guy is like the board idiot? Is he a kid or just autistic?

Re: Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys del

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:37 am
by Tigermegatron
Almighty Unicron wrote:So I'm guessing this Tigermegatron guy is like the board idiot? Is he a kid or just autistic?
1- I am not the board idiot.

2- I am 28 years old.

3- I am not Autistic

I didn't insult you nor treat you badly here. Please show me the same respect & courtesy i've shown you.

I've decided to enter you into my foe/ignore list.

I've reported this reply to Jedi & the moderator,I'll let them deal with you as they see fit.