One Ebay seller has over 176 different Botcon 2013 auctions?

[JediTricks]

I agree, the prices are pretty ridiculous, even if they're "standard" for what they've been charging for these. (I remember during Dom and I's splitting of his 2010 G2 set, we basically worked it out that any given FunPub toy is about 3x the retail price.)

Sounds about right. And I mean, I get it, they do have a seriously limited run which automatically bumps the price up considerably, plus they need to make a profit to stay in business, but these aren't new molds... in fact, they're pretty decrepit compared to what we've gotten in the line lately. Damn, I just talked myself into regretting not picking them up. Still, these molds are downright crusty now, and yet fans want that dead horse beaten, that dead cow milked, and I just don't see it.

I just went to the TFCC/Botcon web site to look up the prices for the box set & the loose bagged box sets. http://www.botcon.com/BotCon2013/San%20 ... ochure.pdf According to the sites brochure info,The 2013 box set cost $365 for club members. the loose bag sets for club members cost $275.

Lets try to calulate how much each botcon 2013 box set figure cost club members who attend botcon. $365 for the box set of 5 toys. the empty box sells for $40 on ebay. the free attendee figure sells for over $75 on ebay. it's basically $365 minus $40 minus $75 which totals $250. NOW DIVIDE $250 BY 5 & IT TOTALS $50 FOR EACH BOX SET FIGURE----> This all means the box set deluxe cost roughly 4 times the USA retail deluxe TF toy price. While the two voyagers in the box set each cost 2.5 times the price of a USA retail TF voyager sized figure.

Trying to calulate the cost of the botcon 2013 set of 5 loose bagged figures which cost $275 is even easier. $275 divided by 5 equals $55 for each figure. this means the Three deluxes each cost 4.2 times the price of a USA TF deluxe toy. while the 2 voyagers each cost Almost 3 times the price of USA retail voyager TF toy.

IMO, that doesn't count the same way, the $365/$450 Primus package includes admittance to all 4 days of the convention, a boxed set of figures, a con souvenir pin, a program comic book, early entrance to the dealer room, a bonus figure, and the Saturday night dinner and party. Yes, the non-attendee version is the same price and only comes with the boxed set and the pin, but that's not what the sets are meant to be, that's secondary, they're meant to draw in attendees to the actual convention.

[Shockwave]

Also, you don't have to be a member to get the Primus package or even attend Botcon. The non member price is much higher for the set though so paying the $40 for membership to get a $60+ discount on the set automatically pays for itself (but the point is, you can attend and not be a member).

[Tigermegatron]

Also, you don't have to be a member to get the Primus package or even attend Botcon. The non member price is much higher for the set though so paying the $40 for membership to get a $60+ discount on the set automatically pays for itself (but the point is, you can attend and not be a member).

Most are aware that General admittance into Botcon for each day is $20.

You can't buy any Botcon convention toys unless your a member. the $365 box set price is what members pay. When non-members pay that $450 price for the box set,part of that money is used to enroll them into a yearly membership-->so in essence you are a club member when you are handed your box set at botcon,as you need to show your membership info & ID in order to get the toys.

[Tigermegatron]

Sounds about right. And I mean, I get it, they do have a seriously limited run which automatically bumps the price up considerably, plus they need to make a profit to stay in business, but these aren't new molds... in fact, they're pretty decrepit compared to what we've gotten in the line lately. Damn, I just talked myself into regretting not picking them up. Still, these molds are downright crusty now, and yet fans want that dead horse beaten, that dead cow milked, and I just don't see it.

I think those Botcon exclusive prices are insanely high & ridiculous. paying tripple/quadrupple+ USA Retail price for glorified repaints makes no sense. I'd rather spend that tripple/quadrupple retail prices on 3rd party not-TF toys,at least here i'm getting a 100% new mold,I'm also getting highly desired homage new toys that Hasbro refuses to create.

[Shockwave]

Also, you don't have to be a member to get the Primus package or even attend Botcon. The non member price is much higher for the set though so paying the $40 for membership to get a $60+ discount on the set automatically pays for itself (but the point is, you can attend and not be a member).

Most are aware that General admittance into Botcon for each day is $20.

You can't buy any Botcon convention toys unless your a member. the $365 box set price is what members pay. When non-members pay that $450 price for the box set,part of that money is used to enroll them into a yearly membership-->so in essence you are a club member when you are handed your box set at botcon,as you need to show your membership info & ID in order to get the toys.

Right. This from the person who has consistently said that you have never and will never go to Botcon because you think the whole thing is a scam. When I actually did go in 2009 I had a choice of either signing up for the club and paying the reduced amount or not and paying the higher amount. They do not automatically enroll you in the club. I had to present a state issued legal ID at registration, not a TFCC membership card. In fact, here's the link to the Qand A from 2009 where they specifically state that you don't have to be a member to get a Primus package:

http://www.botcon.com/BotCon09/faq09.cfm

[Tigermegatron]

Also, you don't have to be a member to get the Primus package or even attend Botcon. The non member price is much higher for the set though so paying the $40 for membership to get a $60+ discount on the set automatically pays for itself (but the point is, you can attend and not be a member).

Most are aware that General admittance into Botcon for each day is $20.

You can't buy any Botcon convention toys unless your a member. the $365 box set price is what members pay. When non-members pay that $450 price for the box set,part of that money is used to enroll them into a yearly membership-->so in essence you are a club member when you are handed your box set at botcon,as you need to show your membership info & ID in order to get the toys.

When I actually did go in 2009 I had a choice of either signing up for the club and paying the reduced amount or not and paying the higher amount. They do not automatically enroll you in the club.
http://www.botcon.com/BotCon09/faq09.cfm

TFCC is infamous for playing mind games. I sincerely doubt the majority are willing to pay a higher amount & not get a year membership out of the deal. most pay the lower amount that includes the year membership.

TFCC love to play mind games,come up with all these penalities,stipulations & so forth.

part of the reason,I left the TFCC club,is because I couldn't understand why the stay at home club members had to pay the same exact price for the box set as the attending club members. I also didn't think it was fair that attending club members got the freebie toy while the stay at home members who ordered the stay at home box set were not entitled to the freebie attending toy. I also didn't like that the stay at home members who pre-ordered the box set were not allowed to pre-order any of the souvenir add-on figures. Having stay at home box set buyers pay the same price as attending box set buyers made no sense as the attending members were getting much more for their buck like: 4 days addmittance into the convention,live panels,autographs,freebie attending figure,dinner,etc...
I asked this question on the TFCC club forums,the TFCC crew told me this was done so non-attending members could help pay for the convention fees & it was done as a penalty.

Fun pub approaches their clubs/conventions as a ELITE FAVORTISM sort of thing. Where their is different levels of eliteness/favortism. the crew gets all the highest perks,the non-attending club members get treated like lower class citizens,That get the most Penalties stipulations taxed upon them.

[JediTricks]

You can't buy any Botcon convention toys unless your a member. the $365 box set price is what members pay.

Pretty sure that's not correct, the sales order sheet didn't have it set up that way.