Possible N Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys delays.

[Tigermegatron]

A Possible N.Korean war & sanctions will cause TF toys delays. As Hasbro's & Takara Manufacturing plants are located in the areas close to N Korea. Once a war breaks out in that region,shipping in & out exports/imports will be a extremly slow process with stops,breaks & pauses along the way. Depending how mild or bad the war is in that region due to all the UN forces attacking it,This might make the manufactoring plants in the region close to N. Korea to shut down for a brief time frame or operate at a slower pace of manufacturing.

[JediTricks]

Pretty sure that's entirely wrong. The Korean peninsula is by the north of China, while Guangdong - where most manufacturing in China, including Hasbro's, takes place - is in the south, 1200 miles away from North Korea.

[Tigermegatron]

Pretty sure that's entirely wrong. The Korean peninsula is by the north of China, while Guangdong - where most manufacturing in China, including Hasbro's, takes place - is in the south, 1200 miles away from North Korea.

CNN's network today has confirmed everything I said in my thread.

[Gomess]

So, wait, CNN has confirmed that a *possible* North Korean war would cause manufacturing of unnecessary goods to shut down? 'Cos that's not much of a confirmation. Or has the UN actually declared war on North Korea? 'Cos I'm pretty surprised I haven't heard about that, but hey, I've been busy this morning.

Anyway, this is an interesting thread, because my gut reaction is "some things are more important than toys".

[Tigermegatron]

So, wait, CNN has confirmed that a *possible* North Korean war would cause manufacturing of unnecessary goods to shut down? 'Cos that's not much of a confirmation. Or has the UN actually declared war on North Korea? 'Cos I'm pretty surprised I haven't heard about that, but hey, I've been busy this morning.

Anyway, this is an interesting thread, because my gut reaction is "some things are more important than toys".

CNN said "ALL" the Manufactoring & Laborers would slow down,pause or shut down IF A WAR WERE TO BREAK OUT IN THE REGION.

Currently according to CNN various USA Companies like GM that have outsources manufactoring & Laborers to that part of the region near north Korea are debatting whether they should tell the workers when to clear out.

it's not just about toys,85%+ of the consumber goods gets made,manufactored & labored near that N. Korean Region. according to CNN, If war broke out,those manufactoring places in that region would close & tell the workers to go home. Once orders get backed up in the manufactoring & on the shipping in/out piers,their is just no way they can ever hope to catch up.

[Dominic]

The possibility of war would be easier to dismiss if North Korea were a rational state with something to lose. Unfortunately, neither is the case. North Korea is a lunatic regime and has nothing to lose but its nukes.

A conflict would probably not damage manufacturing facilities directly. But, shipping would be significantly disrupted and the uncertainties of war would cause even more economic damange. (In theory, given how much China relies on manufacturing and exports, it is in Beijings interests to put North Korea down.)

-late edit: Nobody in this thread, including Tiger, is saying that toy sales being disrupted would be the worst consequence of North Korea starting a war.


Dom
-but hey, has anyone seen Dish Nation this week?

[andersonh1]

Anyway, this is an interesting thread, because my gut reaction is "some things are more important than toys".

That was my reaction. War with North Korea is a serious possibility here, and the casualties on the Korean peninsula if that happens will be appallingly high. Toy delays are not important here.

[JediTricks]

Pretty sure that's entirely wrong. The Korean peninsula is by the north of China, while Guangdong - where most manufacturing in China, including Hasbro's, takes place - is in the south, 1200 miles away from North Korea.

CNN's network today has confirmed everything I said in my thread.

Ok, link us to the article that said that Chinese manufacturing, NOT KOREAN, is going to be affected. I doubt you can, because the article I found was talking about the Kaesong Industrial Complex, which is along the border between North and South Korea, both countries using it as a manufacturing hub for their countries - Samsung and Hyundai have big factories there. But get this, Korea and China? They're not the same thing. So this will affect SOUTH KOREAN MANUFACTURING, not Chinese.

So, wait, CNN has confirmed that a *possible* North Korean war would cause manufacturing of unnecessary goods to shut down? 'Cos that's not much of a confirmation. Or has the UN actually declared war on North Korea? 'Cos I'm pretty surprised I haven't heard about that, but hey, I've been busy this morning.

Anyway, this is an interesting thread, because my gut reaction is "some things are more important than toys".

Consider the source.

CNN said "ALL" the Manufactoring & Laborers would slow down,pause or shut down IF A WAR WERE TO BREAK OUT IN THE REGION.

Currently according to CNN various USA Companies like GM that have outsources manufactoring & Laborers to that part of the region near north Korea are debatting whether they should tell the workers when to clear out.

it's not just about toys,85%+ of the consumber goods gets made,manufactored & labored near that N. Korean Region. according to CNN, If war broke out,those manufactoring places in that region would close & tell the workers to go home. Once orders get backed up in the manufactoring & on the shipping in/out piers,their is just no way they can ever hope to catch up.

That "ALL" may as well refer to the entire world the way you're using it. They're surely talking about South Korean manufacturing, not 1200-mile-away Chinese manufacturing. "Region" is another clue, 1200 miles away is not the same 'region' any more than Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, and Thailand are.

And 85% of consumer goods aren't maufactured near North Korea, that's just wrong, it's entirely wrong. I know people who work with China in manufacturing, I've talked to Hasbro about where they manufacture, it's the city of Shenzhen in the province of Guangdong. And Canada manufactures 3 times as much as China into the US, Mexico almost twice what China manufactures. And the US manufactures 1 and a half trillion dollars of business every year, it is the number one manufacturing country in the world, and in terms of value added to their countries the US is still slightly ahead of China despite a decade-long drop on our part and gains on China's part. Stop talking out of your ass.

Anyway, this is an interesting thread, because my gut reaction is "some things are more important than toys".

That was my reaction. War with North Korea is a serious possibility here, and the casualties on the Korean peninsula if that happens will be appallingly high. Toy delays are not important here.

Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute, think about what you just said. "Toy delays are not important here"... shouldn't that be a pretty important issue here on TFviews.com, a site about Transformers? If not here, where??? I mean, that's why we come here, we're not here to talk about politics or religion or chemical stability formulas or work and real life, we're here to talk about our escape from that stuff!

[Tigermegatron]

Jedi,I can't link to any source info,Because like I said in this thread,I am getting all my source info from the CNN network that I watch on my TV via cable.

CNN Analyst,China,S Korea & even N. Korea have said that if war broke out in that Region if could spell disaster for all those manufactoring places,laborers,piers that ship & receive. because we are talking about possible missles attacking N korea & all it's bases,huge jets destroying their nuclear facilities/bases.

CNN Analyst ,China,S. Korea & N Korea said if war broke out in that region,they would chase the laborers away & tell them to go home & not report to their manufactoring jobs. This will cause delays in the mass production of goods.

any attacks the UN does on the oceans in that region will most definately shut down the piers or make them ship out/in at a much slower pace.

[Tigermegatron]

The possibility of war would be easier to dismiss if North Korea were a rational state with something to lose. Unfortunately, neither is the case. North Korea is a lunatic regime and has nothing to lose but its nukes.

A conflict would probably not damage manufacturing facilities directly. But, shipping would be significantly disrupted and the uncertainties of war would cause even more economic damange. (In theory, given how much China relies on manufacturing and exports, it is in Beijings interests to put North Korea down.)

-late edit: Nobody in this thread, including Tiger, is saying that toy sales being disrupted would be the worst consequence of North Korea starting a war.


Dom
-but hey, has anyone seen Dish Nation this week?

Thanks for being the only "other" RATIONAL voice in this thread.

I often feel the internet forum fans biggest downfall is not being able to have the ability to look outside the box. they need to see it on paper or have it physically happen to believe it. often times the averae internet fan is not equipped with the Analyst/speculation/research gene that gives others the abilty to predict events & out comes based off past events