TF Prime episodes

[Sydew]

I liked this episode better than the last six, I specially liked the Bulkhead scene it was just funny. I just hope the series keeps getting better with each episode.

[BWprowl]

This episode was admittedly better than the previous ones. The storyline was solid, and actually made sense all the way through (though they're making the TFs a bit too human for my tastes here; the whole 'keeping aware to stay alive in the cold' thing didn't really work for me). The kids proved legitimately useful here, and it was nice that, as Ratchet pointed out, their usefulness was mostly dumb luck. I dunno, that made the situation more interesting to me. And they were all mostly sufferable this time around, even Miko. And this episode even got a chuckle out of me, Bulkhead's girl-scream was rather amusing. Particularly the first time, where we were initially led to believe it was Miko, well done.

The only niggle I had was the fire extinguisher. Why did the Autobots have a human-sized fire extinguisher in their base? And why was it apparently the world's only infinite-ammo fire extinguisher? Plus it ended up totally telegraphing the whole "send 'em to the Arctic' resolution, which was just a bit too convenient for my tastes. But whatever, it was hardly the worst thing TF Prime's thrown at us. At the very least, this episode showed they can do a workable episode without a Decepticon threat.

[Sparky Prime]

Yeah, Scrapheap was a good episode, and I'd probably rate it was the best episode of the series so far. I can totally see the Scraplets like mini versions of GIR as well.

[Dominic]

Scraplets = robo-scabies.

[Mako Crab]

Sari's an interesting case though, in that she's *technically* a Transformer. I wonder if that affects people's opinions of her at all.

But people genuinely liked her for the first 2 full seasons of TFA before it was revealed that she was a cybertronian.

People speculated Sari was Cybertronian since the first episode.

I guess I don't see the point. If people didn't like her, they wouldn't care if she were human or cybertronian.

[138 Scourge]

I even watched this thing and thought it was pretty okay. Stayed awake for the entire episode, even! So, I knew damn well that Scraplets were gonna look different in this show than they did in the comics, but I still got kind of faked out. When the stray bolts and the like were rolling past the one kid, I was thinking "Oh, crap, is that them?"

I don't care, I like the idea of lil' transforming screws and bolts and the like. New version was okay, too. I liked the bit where knockoff Up kid had his little pet relationship with "Scrappy", and then beat it to death with a crowbar a few minutes later. And like, not even "It had to be done" kind of beating, it was borderline crazy beat-the-corpse kind of stuff. Cute.

I was laughing at the Prime/Arcee stuff, though. Seemed like they were hitting enough cliches of the "We're stuck in the cold" situation, the only thing they were missing was "Let's huddle together to keep warm through body heat". Which, I dunno, would that be that big a problem for spacefaring robots? Starscream doesn't have any problem in the void of space. Should I just assume he's built differently than the Autobots and let it go?

Anyway, still not in love with the show, but it did inspire me to go watch the Skyquake episode. Which I didn't care for nearly as much. Win some, lose some.

[Sydew]

I was laughing at the Prime/Arcee stuff, though. Seemed like they were hitting enough cliches of the "We're stuck in the cold" situation, the only thing they were missing was "Let's huddle together to keep warm through body heat". Which, I dunno, would that be that big a problem for spacefaring robots? Starscream doesn't have any problem in the void of space. Should I just assume he's built differently than the Autobots and let it go?

I didn't realized it up until you mention it. How come Prime and Arcee have problems with subzero temperatures on Earth but not in deep space? If i recall correctly they were fighting Megatron in space two episodes back.

[Mako Crab]

The cold bit came up over at TFW too. This post was about Movie Megatron and ice but it's still relevant.


Originally Posted by Teratron:

Space really isn't "cold" in the manner we normally think of it. Something is cold when the atoms within it have a low amount of kinetic energy. I.e., the individual particles don't really move around much. When more energy is added to the system and those particles start moving around more, it becomes warmer.

The primary means of heat transfer on Earth is conduction. If you put a hot object and a cold object in contact with each other, the atoms of each collide with each other, and that extra kinetic energy gradually gets transferred from the hot object to the cold one. If left long enough, they'll eventually reach an equilibrium where both are the same temperature.

In a vacuum, however, there are no other objects to come in contact with. Therefore, there is no heat transfer by conduction or convection. Hence, aside from a few stray particles here and there, space will not feel cold, nor will it freeze anything. Space is actually about the best insulator that exists.

Once on Earth though, all that cold air and ice certainly does allow plenty of heat transfer. Upon landing, he sunk and rapidly cooled. Before he could do anything about it, he became stuck and cooled to the point where he entered stasis. Being so reduced to a state of nonactivity isn't so much a weakness for Transformers as it is a simple fact of nature. Cold is by definition a lack of energy. Cool something down enough, and it will become inactive.

I thought this came through well enough when Megatron escapes captivity. Once he had warmed sufficiently, the ice covering him quickly proved to be no obstacle at all. It was the temperature he was suspended at that held him in check, not the ice covering him.

Sorry for the long science babbling, but this issue has been a pet peeve of mine for a while. Despite all the catch phrases, space is not truly "cold" in the sense that we normally use the word for.

[138 Scourge]

Oh yeah, one thing I forgot when talking about the couple episodes I watched lately. I would like Bumblebee to either get upgraded so he can talk, or to be killed off. Seriously, that knockoff R2-D2 bullshit is about on my last nerve.

EDIT: Plus, what do you even need him for? I can't think of a thing you'd need 'Bee for in the stories that you couldn't do with one of the other four.

[Sydew]

Ok, Mako, I can go with that.