Shockwave wrote:Deathy, the designs didn't have anything to do with it. And Sparky's right (and so is JT), there is a diferrence between profit reports and retail sales. The fact that they were shitty toys is why they tanked at retail and that's why the line was cancelled later. But, retailers bought a shitload of them right out the gate which is why Hasbro reported such huge profits to begin with. The Aesthetic of the toys had nothing to do with it being cancelled.
But hey, when have we ever been able to convince you of anything once you're set on beleiving it? You'll still think this is why it tanked and all I can say is, it's a free country and you have the right to be wrong.
JT is right,Deathy is right,Sparky is wrong & so is Shockwave wrong.
JT is right because he said the main reason why DOTM toy sales were so high because this reflects what retailers over-ordered on the first wave or 2 months/year in advance orders. Stores over-ordered in advance based off high 2007 movie & ROTF toy sales. Once the DOTM toys arrived in stores,Buyers didn't buy them at a decent pace. resulting in USA stores have shelves/pegs warmers,which prevented stores from ordering newer waves. Hasbro was forced to cancel the DOTM toys due to stores not wanting the toys.
Deathy is Right,Because there were reasons why Parents refused to buy the DOTM toys. Reasons were: Economy,budget cuts that caused weaker plastic,uglier sculpts,smaller toys in their size classes,more smalls,less bigs,inferior engineering. A lower toy budget affects all areas of a toy not just one isolated area as they work together to create a toy. if the toy budget was higher the crew could have had more stages in the toy developement,like more art sketches,more test shots,more team leaders checking the work,testing the stages to improve on sculpt,enginerring,etc..
Sparky is wrong because he ORIGINALLY thought the USA DOTM toy line was a huge success in stores/with buyers. As he incorrectly stated/read the Hasbro 2011 DOTM toy sales charts. Apparently he was oblivious to the DOTM toys not selling well in USA stores. He was un-aware the toys went on clearance within months of it's release date. un-aware buyers not buying them at a decent pace. stores not ordering newer waves at a decent pace. Hasbro being forced to cancel the DOTM toy line 6 months after it's release date.
Spark is wrong,Because he believes there were no reasons that caused the DOTM toys to get canceled by hasbro in the USA. he probably thinks hasbro ran out of product or it was intended to be a short/6 month toy line. This ofcause is in-correct as a whole bunch of new molds/repaints got canceled for USA stores. The DOTM toys had more release months in 2012 in Various Asian countries,Japan & Canada.
Shockwave is wrong,Because like previous threads,Shockwave doesn't bother reading the full replies in a thread. All shockwave does is read a few words,assume the wrong thing & post counter replies that never make sense & are always wrong.