Shockwave wrote:I didn't forget Tarantulus, I just thought that there were other BW characters that were more relevant in other iterations of the franchise and therefore more deserving of being the "representative from BW". But, he was pretty high on my list. Actually just below Blackarachnia.
That's good to hear. I haven't heard his name come up in conversation in a while, and the talk of homage figures always lends itself towards BA now so Tarantulus ends up in the scrapheap for that.
Onslaught Six wrote: I cannot imagine how Armada Sideways ever got up there
Circa '09, there was a lot of hub-bub in the fandom about Armada Sideways. I remember the arguments around here primarily circling around "Servant of Unicron," "arguably the same character across all continuities," (then including even ROTF, idiotically) and "Important (for Armada standards)." Honestly, I'm more shocked that Demolishor made the list, although that may also have been an '09 argument, seeing as he was made important around then.
How Thundy or Skywarp aren't in yet, though, is a mystery. I guess they must keep getting ignored for more "unique" Decepticons other than "oh, one of the other jets."
I forgot that Sideways was being talked about because of the ROTF character, that would explain it.
TC and SW being repaints of Starscream probably is the issue, not unique enough. But having one of them "dead" and the other kinda lost in the comics the past year may have had something to do with it too.
Mako Crab wrote:The other sites did only submit 5 winners to Hasbro. But to get those 5 they first had people list off any & all of their favorites. Then something like the top 10 TFs with the most nominations were all put in a poll. And the top 5 from that poll was sent off.
Yeah, I figured as much. Top 10 gives you more data points, more nuance, each top vote gets 10 points instead of 5, and where our last-place is would be be a whole 6 points there, so you'd be giving out a total of 55 points instead of 15. I do wonder what that would look like with our existing votes, let me run the numbers so our top 5 votes have 40 points total (10-6, the pretense being nobody voted their 6th through 10th lower votes that would have gotten 5-1 points)...
Here's how our votes would look depending on each system:
ORIGINAL SYSTEM
_______________ NEW SYSTEM
********************************* Top 5
Optimus Primal
_________________ Devastator
Devastator
_____________________ Optimus Primal
Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime
__________ Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime
Barricade
_______________________ Cheetor
Arcee (G1)
_____________________ Barricade
*************************** The Rest
Cheetor
________________________ Arcee (G1)
Blackarachnia
___________________ Jetfire
Jetfire
_________________________ Sky-byte
Metroplex
______________________ Blackarachnia
Sky-byte
_______________________ Metroplex
Lockdown
______________________ Ravage
Mirage
________________________ Lockdown
Ravage
_______________________ Tankor (Beast Machines)
Unicron
________________________ Unicron
Galvatron
______________________ Mirage
Swerve
________________________ Swerve
Tankor (Beast Machines)
_________ Galvatron
Sixshot
________________________ Sixshot
Cyclonus (G1)
__________________ Omega Supreme
Hot Shot
_______________________ Hot Shot
Omega Supreme
________________ Cyclonus (G1)
Scourge (RID)
__________________ Scourge (RID)
Trypticon
______________________ Trypticon
So why the difference? Because going with a 1-10 voting system with corresponding score rewards volume over passion, which would be fine if we were a big site, but we're a small slice of fandom so we have been trying to mitigate that with passion. Then again, our existing system led to 4 ties in the top 10, while the other system would have led to no ties at all in that range. I suppose we could consider going the other way with it next year, what do you guys think?
I know there's a bit of pushback on making these ranked lists as it is, but the voting data would come out as a more definitive representation.