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Re: Comics are Awesome III

Postby andersonh1 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am

Green Lantern #10
We're getting into Grant Morrison being strange for the sake of it. As much as I've enjoyed this series so far, and as much as I've enjoyed how he's salted the series with a lot of continuity, making it feel like a part of what's come before (including decades of pre-Geoff Johns stories), this multiverse issue isn't working for me much better than last issue's "sword and sorcery" issue did. I get what's going on, but we're wasting a lot of page time on GLs from other universes that would be better spent on plot and exposition. There's some good stuff here, but a bit more focus would help.

Fantastic Four #12 (657)
This "legacy numbering" Marvel has on their books just makes me laugh. Why not just admit that this is not issue 12 and just print one number on the book instead of two? In any case, after enjoying some Silver Age Marvel, I've been sampling a few of the modern series, as I have from time to time (Hulk in the 90s when Peter David was writing, Superior Spider Man and Daredevil in more recent years), and when I can find a book that isn't bleak and unpleasant to read, I might well read more. I've never been all that interested in the FF, but the 60s material gave me an appreciation for the characters, even if a lot of the early plots are less than stellar.

This is a good issue. The Thing/Ben Grimm has recently married his long time blind girlfriend Alisha, step daughter of the Puppet Master, and he's about to revert to human form which he apparently does temporarily once a year. So it's honeymoon time for the two of them on some remote tropical resort. But the Puppet Master sends the Hulk to kill the Thing, and as I found out in the FF omnibus, the Thing is not in fact anywhere near as strong as the Hulk and never has been, so it's not an even contest. Ben is in very real danger of being killed by the mind-controlled Hulk, even if he wasn't about to turn into a human again in less than a minute as the issue ends, which will make the situation even worse. I enjoyed the issue a lot, and will have to see what happens next month.
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Re: Comics are Awesome III

Postby Sparky Prime » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:16 pm

andersonh1 wrote:This "legacy numbering" Marvel has on their books just makes me laugh. Why not just admit that this is not issue 12 and just print one number on the book instead of two?

They went back to doing that? I remember in 2003, they decided to do away with double numbering thing as a few series were starting to hit the big #500. So what happened? Marvel forgot relaunching a series doesn't really work (beyond a temporary boost in sales at most) and that the double numbering thing is a dumb idea?

On a completely different note... Dan DiDio finally revealed why he hates Dick Grayson so much. Apparently it's because Dick has aged while Bruce hasn't so much. DiDio is afraid eventually they'll get to a point where Dick is older than Bruce. Which, isn't that really their own fault? It used to be they'd let characters age and die, with sidekicks taking over for their mentors, or new characters introduced to replace them...

I've also been seeing a lot of talk lately about how Marvel Comics and DC Comics are potentially close to being shut down with the industry in a decline.
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Re: Comics are Awesome III

Postby andersonh1 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:32 am

Hawkman #15
Shadow Thief has gained new power thanks to this ongoing "Year of the Villain" storyline (reminds me of Nekron offering power to villains back in the 90s, only this time it's Lex Luthor doing the same), and is running Hawkman ragged. Hawkman goes to see the Shade for help, which as it turns out is exactly what Shadow Thief wanted. He beats the Shade rather easily, but the Shade still thinks he can help Hawkman, so he takes them both to the Shadowlands. I enjoy it when a connection is made between characters who normally have nothing to do with each other, but they probably should. I miss Bryan Hitch's art on this book, but it's still a good read every month.

Fantastic Four #13 (658)
Puppet Master is using the Hulk to try and kill Ben Grimm, who will turn human in 50 minutes. The Thing is getting pretty badly beat up during the fight. He's bleeding, part of his face is swollen, and chunks of rock are being knocked off of him by the Hulk. He's pretty much down and out and Hulk is moving in for the kill when Alicia talks Ben into one last try, and for once he manages to knock the Hulk out. Sadly, he's injured badly enough that when he turns back into a human, he's out for a week and missed the honeymoon. But the punch knocked out the Hulk because it broke Puppet Master's puppet, and Hulk goes and mangles Puppet Master's fingers in revenge. So the Thing beat the Hulk, which I take it rarely happens in these fights, but he didn't get to enjoy being human for a week with his new wife. You win some, you lose some.

And the Hulk must be angling for a horror tone these days, because he talked about walking under the ocean and Banner drowning four times along the way, but apparently the Hulk can't be killed. That's new. Are they turning him into an out and out villain?

I also picked up issue 9 since there were a few back issues on the shelf. which among other things has Doctor Doom trying to steal the power from Galactus himself (an idea that goes back to the 60s when he tried to steal it from the Silver Surfer), although this time he's looking at it as an energy source for Latveria. And when he tries to kill the FF, Sue uses her powers to turn his mask and upper body armor invisible while he's broadcasting his intended execution of the FF, so the whole world (except the reader) can see how disfigured Dr. Doom is under the armor. I guess Doom messed with the wrong person this time.
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Re: Comics are Awesome III

Postby andersonh1 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:38 am

Sparky Prime wrote:On a completely different note... Dan DiDio finally revealed why he hates Dick Grayson so much. Apparently it's because Dick has aged while Bruce hasn't so much. DiDio is afraid eventually they'll get to a point where Dick is older than Bruce. Which, isn't that really their own fault? It used to be they'd let characters age and die, with sidekicks taking over for their mentors, or new characters introduced to replace them...


Or they could allow for a few years to have passed, enough for characters like Dick Grayson to have aged to around 21 or so, while Batman has aged the same amount. Who expects the former sidekicks to age while the mentors don't, and who in the world assumes that Batman has never aged? Does Didio assume fans think that Batman can have all those adventures in a few weeks or something? I think once again he doesn't get the fan mindset when it comes to these characters.
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Re: Comics are Awesome III

Postby Sparky Prime » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:39 pm

andersonh1 wrote:Or they could allow for a few years to have passed, enough for characters like Dick Grayson to have aged to around 21 or so, while Batman has aged the same amount. Who expects the former sidekicks to age while the mentors don't, and who in the world assumes that Batman has never aged? Does Didio assume fans think that Batman can have all those adventures in a few weeks or something? I think once again he doesn't get the fan mindset when it comes to these characters.

DiDio seems to think it's perfectly reasonable for Batman to have had 4 Robin's in the span of 5 years. I don't even know how Damian's age is supposed to work. He's 10 when he became Robin, yet according to the New 52 timeline, he was conceived during Bruce's first year as Batman, 6 years prior? I know there's some half explanation his growth was artificially accelerated (for reasons?), but that's obviously just to squeeze everything into a ridiculously short timeline. And then, in 2016, they aged him up to 13 just so it would make sense for him to be on the Teen Titans... I'd be more concerned with Damian getting older than Bruce at this point given his wonky aging to fit the story.
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