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I haven't had a chance to read Ultra Comics yet, but regardless... here's an interview with Grant Morrison about the issue: http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2 ... leash.html
Paste: This issue takes place on Earth-Prime, our own earth, and speaks directly to comic books and their pragmatic effect on readers. In your decades as a creator, do you think comic books have assumed a different relationship in how they effect their readers? One of the most interesting twists here is how online commentary plays into a battle with The Gentry.
Morrison: Yeah. Something very interesting has happened since the dawn of the internet in the sense that the audience can respond immediately, and everything becomes almost like a live performance. And no matter how much we say we don’t care about this stuff and we don’t read this stuff, of course we look at it. It’s influencing everything. I think the dialogue between the creators or the authors and the consumers is now so tight and so close, that it has to be acknowledged as a major part of the experience of creating pop culture in the 21st century. And again, I wanted this comic to go there because I think it’s a fertile field. Nobody’s really talked about it and how we all respond. We listen to what they’re saying, we adapt to stances, we change and they change. Everyone playing this strange game has to be acknowledged at least in a work like this one, particularly, which is about that relationship.
Paste: The Multiversity #2 comes out next month, concluding the story. I think The Gentry has been my favorite aspect of the book—I know each member is an extreme of various villain archetypes, but they also seem to represent something so much more primal. Are we going to discover more about these characters and what separates them from a character like Darkseid?
Morrison: Oh yeah, you definitely find out a lot more about them, but at the same time I think why they work is because everyone can read them in their own way, and make them represent what they want them to represent. I want to keep that little bit of mystery. The finale pretty much explains who they are, and even in Ultra it’s explained that these are really bad ideas. They’re demon ideas and we incubate them and they form. We can feel them, but we don’t quite know how to display them and what they’re doing. It’s been portrayed that our imaginative space has become degraded. Where once we had Star Trek now we have The Walking Dead. We see our civilization as something that’s basically, ultimately doomed. And maybe a generation ago we saw our civilization as something that would naturally be carried into the stars, and have this fantastic utopian future. So Multiverse is all about that, and Ultra is specifically about the idea that we have impoverished a neighborhood, and once you’ve impoverished a neighborhood then you come in to gentrify it. You’ve made it very comfortable for the monsters to cultivate.
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Somebody at CBR pointed out that the reader comments in "Ultra Comics" mirror Uotan's review from "Multiversity" #1. So, a character that is supposed to represent readers is calling out a character who is supposed to be powered by....the readers.


At this point, I am hoping that DC will do something of value with "Multiversity" later. (They really need to make a follow-up to "Mastermen" and "the Society of Superheroes".)
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Dominic wrote:Somebody at CBR pointed out that the reader comments in "Ultra Comics" mirror Uotan's review from "Multiversity" #1. So, a character that is supposed to represent readers is calling out a character who is supposed to be powered by....the readers.
Uotan wasn't a reader, he was a reviewer. Morrison's been making a meaningful distinction between the two. (Note that Uotan 'dissects' the comic instead of actually reading it)
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Apparently, Donatello's death in TMNT #44, complete with a character saying they failed to save him, was a ruse. He was just hurt really bad.

Bah.


I am actually less interested in IDW TF and Joe comics because of this.


In other news, all kinds of contrary stuff out of Marvel this past week. In the space of a few days Alonso and Cebulski (Marvel higher-ups) have gone back and forth on post-"Secret Wars" plans. One minute, the characters Marvel does not have movie rights to will be getting split from 616. The next, they are all staying in the main books. How much of this is Marvel scrambling and how much of this is Marvel playing with fans is anybody's guess.
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Dominic wrote:Apparently, Donatello's death in TMNT #44, complete with a character saying they failed to save him, was a ruse. He was just hurt really bad.

Bah.
Well that's kinda lame... Although can't say I'm completely surprised by that twist either. Considering how his shell was smashed open, do they say if he's going to be paralyzed?

In other news... Star Trek and Green Lantern is going to have a crossover.
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Oh good, it's only New Coke Trek, not real Trek.
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See, that one's a camcorder, that one's a camera, that one's a phone, and they're doing "Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil", get it?
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Looks like we're finally getting that long-ago promised "Speed Force" book... sort of, for a few issues anyway. :) I'm looking forward to reading about versions of characters I actually like for the next two months, and Wally West is at the top of the list.

http://www.comicosity.com/exclusive-pre ... d-force-1/
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The only two "Convergence" books that have my attention are the Crime Syndicate book and the Robin/Huntress book.

In the case of the first, I want to see what Bucelletto (sp?) can do, and by extension if "Injustice" is going to be worth following. (Although, if DC does not release a compilation of the remainder of year two and all of year three, I am going to be done with that book regardless.)

In the latter case, I want to see if/how DC plans to follow up on the original Huntress (picking up after the original Batman died).

Post-"Convergence", DC needs to get me back with good concepts *and* good execution. I stayed with "Earth 2" for about a year longer than I normally would have for the sake of concept. And, (because I am trying to cut back), simply being readable is not going to be enough reason to pick up a book.
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Yeah, I'll be picking up the Robin/Huntress book as well. I like both characters of course, but I've read the 70s All-Star revival where the death of Batman took place, and I'm genuinely interested in how they pick up plot threads from over 30 years ago and write a story where Batman's "children" in the form of his "son" and biological daughter settle the question of who picks up the mantle. "Who can replace Batman?" is one of those ideas that is interesting to explore in just about any era of the character's existence.
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andersonh1 wrote:"Who can replace Batman?" is one of those ideas that is interesting to explore in just about any era of the character's existence.
"Battle for the Cowl", which DC did several years ago (right after Final Crisis) was way more interesting than it had any right to be, purely on the strength of that concept.
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