Best and Worst of "Armada":

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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Tigermegatron » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:43 pm

I'm not a fan of the armada toys.

the only armada toys i'd recommend for others to get is unicron & tidalwave.

Armada sideways is a really great toy. too bad the cartoon never used the 2 headmasters to thier full potential. which would have been having the 2 headmasters minicons being created by unicron for the sole purpose of controlling a transformers & forcing him to be a loyal servant of unicron.
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Dominic » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:09 pm

As big a deal as Unicron was back in '03, I cannot acutally say it is a good toy. (The wings/planet-shell are just too cumbersome for my liking.)


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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby andersonh1 » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:01 pm

Dominic wrote:As big a deal as Unicron was back in '03, I cannot acutally say it is a good toy. (The wings/planet-shell are just too cumbersome for my liking.)


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It's a good toy, it's just not quite as good a transforming toy as it could perhaps have been. But I'm still pretty enthused about Armada Unicron, even after all this time. It's a pretty good effort. And it's probably more fun than Primus, even though Primus is the better planet-former by far.
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby 138 Scourge » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:06 pm

Tigermegatron wrote:
Armada sideways is a really great toy.


I dunno, man. I had that thing at one point, and it was one of the least impressive Transformers I've ever owned. Different tastes and all, of course, and I love some toys that sane rational people would look at and go "Really, this?" about, but damn. Sideways was rough.
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Dominic wrote:As big a deal as Unicron was back in '03, I cannot acutally say it is a good toy. (The wings/planet-shell are just too cumbersome for my liking.)


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It's a good toy, it's just not quite as good a transforming toy as it could perhaps have been. But I'm still pretty enthused about Armada Unicron, even after all this time. It's a pretty good effort. And it's probably more fun than Primus, even though Primus is the better planet-former by far.


Tough call. I really liked Primus, he had great detail, a fun transformation, and just overall looking amazing going for him. Unicron's a lot more...he's plainer, it seems. Way less detail, kind of a fail as a planet, but he's got the iconic character appeal going for him, because his character was still really exciting back then, and it's a pretty fantastic robot. I couldn't say which one of the two I prefer.

Stupid thought, too, as to Unicron's lack of detail...Primus is all detailed up because you can look at him and see cities and whatnot. Unicron, on the other hand, is completely unpopulated, why wouldn't he just be all metal deserts and whatnot? Another stupid thought...I really want to write a TF comic story in which Unicron's population shows up.
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Dominic » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:56 am

DDP's "Transformers"/GI Joe" volume 4 did it already. The Unicron Trilogy arguably covered taht as well.
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Shockwave » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:24 pm

I think Scourge meant that he'd want a "good" story written about Unicron's populace. Personally, I've always liked that he didn't have a "population". It served to illustrate the ideological differences between Primus and Unicron. Primus became a planet and created life, while Unicron who wants to consume and eliminate all life didn't have life on his "surface".
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Onslaught Six » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:27 pm

I don't even think the differences were ideological, but biological. (In a sense, anyway.) Primus can create life, while Unicron can only corrupt it.
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Shockwave » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:47 pm

You're probably right. I kinda just pulled that comparison out of my ass anyway.
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Tigermegatron » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:43 am

Shockwave wrote:I think Scourge meant that he'd want a "good" story written about Unicron's populace. Personally, I've always liked that he didn't have a "population". It served to illustrate the ideological differences between Primus and Unicron. Primus became a planet and created life, while Unicron who wants to consume and eliminate all life didn't have life on his "surface".


in the galaxy force/cybertron cartoon series. It vaguely implies that planet X where soundwave & sideways come from was Unicron.
So perhaps in the Cybertron/GF alternate universe Unicron has life living on it's planet surface.

It's abundantly clear from other alternate universes. that Unicron creates life but sends them out into the universe to wreak havok,harvest energon & do his bidding. examples are his trio of loyal servants like galvatron,scourge,Cyclonus. that trio of servants from the marvel G-1 comics called "hook", line" & "sinker". the BWNEO fuzors. the armada DW comics 4 horsemen warriors.
in Armada, unicron created a whole swarm/nest of minicons as slaves then they revolted,freed themselves & forced allianced with some transformers. it's assumed for a brief period those minicons lived on unicron or inside unicron until they revolted,freed themselves & left.

I think Unicron does have some type of life inside his planet/robot forms. as clearly seen in the 1986 TF movie. where you can see stuff attacking the transformers who entered inside unicron. are those things controlled by unicron or do those things control themselves & protect their master isn't really known.
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Re: Best and Worst of "Armada":

Postby Dominic » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:53 am

I always the assumed that the claw tentacles in the '86 movie were some kind of defense/immune system.

If you go with the idea that Unicron is part of a universal cycle, (an idea that would be more tolerable if the franchise had a better mean/average for writing), the idea of him creating or re-constituting life would be less silly.


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