Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby andersonh1 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:52 am

Google translate is your friend! Traductor Google es tu amigo! Google translate est votre ami!

See? :mrgreen:
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby 138 Scourge » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:46 pm

andersonh1 wrote:
See? :mrgreen:


Si! :mrgreen:

Omelette du fromage! :mrgreen:
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby Dominic » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:07 am

Google translate is your friend! Traductor Google es tu amigo! Google translate est votre ami!



Well, bugger me then.

Me sodomizar.

Sodomiser m'a alors.


Armada Pack-in Volume 2"


Sarracini/Guidi

The second issue of the "Armada" pack-in comics features Scavenger and Rollbar fending off an attack from Starscream and the Minicon Destruction Team. The structure that Scavenber and Rollbar are constructing is described as being a "satellite", but it looks more like a satellite dish array.

La segunda edición de la "Armada" pack-en los cómics características Scavenger y Rollbar defenderse de un ataque de Starscream y el Equipo de Destrucción Minicon. La estructura que Scavenber y Rollbar están construyendo se describe como un "satélite", pero se parece más a un conjunto de antena parabólica.

La deuxième édition de la "Armada" pack-in comics caractéristiques Scavenger et arceau repousser une attaque de Starscream et l'équipe de destruction Minicon. La structure qui Scavenber et arceau en train de construire est décrit comme étant un "satellite", mais il ressemble plus à un tableau de parabole.


The Decepticons manage to destroy the array, and Starscream (somehow) gets knocked off of a cliff.

Los Decepticons logran destruir la matriz, y Starscream (de alguna manera) es eliminado de un acantilado.

Le Decepticons parviennent à détruire la matrice, et Starscream (en quelque sorte) est renversé d'une falaise.


This second issue reads less like a pack-in than the first. The most obvious "buy the toy" moment is when the Destruction Team shows up, mentioning both themselves and Megatron by name. (To be fair, comics in the 80s had moments like this even when there was no imperative to sell toys.) As with the previous issue, there is an add for Dreamwave and a current product catalogue. There is also an issue for "GI Joe" featuring then current ("Spy Troops") character models.


Este segundo número se lee menos como un paquete en que el primero. El más obvio "comprar el juguete" momento es cuando el equipo Destrucción aparece, mencionando tanto a sí mismos y Megatron por su nombre. (Para ser justos, el cómic en los años 80 tuvieron momentos como éste, incluso cuando no había imprescindible para vender juguetes.) Como en el caso anterior, es un complemento para Dreamwave y un catálogo de productos actual. También hay un problema de "GI Joe", con modelos de los personajes vigentes en ese momento ("Tropas Spy").

Ce deuxième numéro se lit moins comme un paquet-en que la première. Le «acheter le jouet" moment le plus évident est lorsque l'équipe de destruction se manifeste, en mentionnant à la fois eux-mêmes et Megatron par son nom. (Pour être juste, la bande dessinée dans les années 80 a eu des moments comme celui-ci, même quand il n'y avait pas impératif de vendre des jouets.) Comme pour la question précédente, il est un complément pour Dreamwave et un catalogue de produits actuel. Il ya aussi un problème pour "GI Joe" avec des modèles de personnages alors en vigueur ("Troupes d'espion").


Grade: B/C


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-bastante seguro de que el traductor estropeó algunas de las frases idiomáticas .....
-jolie-vous que le traducteur bâclé que certaines des phrases idiomatiques....
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby JediTricks » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:27 pm

You made me laugh with the tri-lingo post on these.
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See, that one's a camcorder, that one's a camera, that one's a phone, and they're doing "Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil", get it?
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby Dominic » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:58 pm

Credit O6 and Anderson for the idea.
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby Dominic » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:40 am

Volume 3:
Sarracini/Guidi

The tri-lingual gimmick from the previous 2 issues is dropped. It does not effect the content, but it greately improves the presentation.

The product catalogue includes the TrU exclusive re-issue line and G1 episodes being sold on video for the first time in years.

This issue includes one of the more blatant deviations from Dreamwave's main "Armada" book. While the first two issues could have been loosely reconciled with the main book (after issues 5 and 13) with minimal effort, the third issue is impossible to reconcile. The Air Defense team runs afoul of Galvatron and needs to be rescued by Optimus and Jetfire. In the US comics, Megatron never became Galvatron. (There were a few pages during "World's Collide" where Megatron took Galvatron's colouring while holding the Dark Saber. But, that is much different from Megatron being Galvatron before getting the sword.) And, in the comics, Jetfire never came to Earth.

The first 4 pages of the comic are actually pretty well set-up. But, it falls apart pretty quickly in the last four pages. Galvatron's appearance consists of him jumping out (from somewhere) and yelling "boo". And, Optimus's fight with Galvatron consists of.....a few incoherent panels worth of grappling and kicking. As much as people might complain about narrative decompression in comics, it is not as bad as this kind of hyper-compression.

At the beginning of the issue, the Air Defense Minicons are shown destroying a satellite dish. And....they refer to it as a satellite. This is the exact same mistake that Saracinni made in the second issue.....with a similar plot point. A satellite is an object that orbits another, larger, object. A satellite dish is a ground-based object used to communicate with a satellite. Between this and Saracinni's mis-labelling of a Defense Secretary as "Defense Minister", it is apparent that Saracinni did not bother to check basics while he wrote.

Guidi's rendition of the Air Defense Minicons is off model, particularly Jetstorm's and Runway's faces. This is odd, as Guidi's art was usually more consistent than that in the regular "Armada" book.


Grade: C/D
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby Gomess » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:38 am

Oh man, I remember the "fight" in that one. A true headshaker.
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby Dominic » Wed May 01, 2013 1:36 pm

Volume 4:

The product catalogue side of the fourth volume is thicker than in previous issues. The pictures of the toys are smaller (in order to fit more on a page) *and* a significant number of figures are not listed. I had forgotten how big that "Armada" was. (It was not even the *only* TF line at the time, sharing space with "Alternators", the re-issues, "Universe" and HoC.) there is a double-page ad (using a gate-fold cover) for "Built To Rule". That line makes "Kre-O" look good by comparison.


Sarracini handles the writing of the comic and Raiz is back on pencils.

All things considered, this issue is the best paced of the four. Unfortunately, it is not a complete story. The Autobots have captured Galvatron between this the third comic and are transporting him to prison. Tidal Wave shows up to help Galvatron escape. Optimus and Overload engage the bad guys.....and Unicron shows up. The end. Go home kids.

In fairness to Hasbro, the idea was probably to encourage kids to work out the ending on their own (and maybe buy some more toys). But, the end result is that a pack-in comic ends up reading like the middle of an arc for a book that would normally be available in a comic shop.

The later "Energon" pack-in comics make reference to a fight with Unicron, which implies that the Autobots and Decepticons somehow managed to save themselves (and likely Cybertron). But, the series feels incomplete. (If I were a kid when this came out, I may have been wholly soured on comics by virtue of not getting the full monty.)

The small size of the pages, and the general darkness of the art do no favours for Raiz. Based on other work he has done, he can deal with one or the other. But, his art style cannot work with both small pages and dark colours at the same time.

Grade: C


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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby JediTricks » Wed May 01, 2013 9:21 pm

I honestly never understood how anybody could lend these sad little things credence.
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Re: Unicron Trilogy pack-in comics

Postby Dominic » Thu May 02, 2013 8:29 am

Explain.
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