Megatron Was Right...

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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Tigermegatron » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:51 am

badwolf wrote:So I've been watching Beast Machines the past few nights & Megatron was right. Cybertron is a world of machines, Primus was a machine...NOT an organic. Too bad Tankor/Rhinox could not have eliminated Primal & Magatron & removed the organic from Cybertron. Primal was just as much a fanatic as Megatron. Cheetor by this time had become a MUCH better leader than Primal. Cheetor vs. Tankor would have become a great battle & storyline to follow.


It's worth a serious mention. that is "ONE" watches all those Science documentary type shows on cable. All the planets in the universe are made from the same exact suff.

So their is no such thing as a planet that can be created out of 100% metal.

to make matters worse,to create metal,steel,titanium,these things need to go thru a rigourous defining & shaping process. because when their dug out from the earth their in rock/ore forms.

Plannet cybertron in the 1980's G-1 cartoon was hinted at as once having a organic core. in that season 2 episode,megatron brings the key to vector sigma to earth & tries to remake earth into cybertron. the key of vector sigma was hinted at as to what made cybertron the metalic world it became. In beastmachines,the writers are following what the G-1 writers first created.

In the marvel TF USA comics,both primus & unicron crashed into planets. thru time both primus & unicron escaped their planet prisions by reforming/reshaping the planets they crashed into.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Sparky Prime » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:05 pm

Wow, this is an old thread...

Tigermegatron wrote:It's worth a serious mention. that is "ONE" watches all those Science documentary type shows on cable. All the planets in the universe are made from the same exact suff.

So their is no such thing as a planet that can be created out of 100% metal.

to make matters worse,to create metal,steel,titanium,these things need to go thru a rigourous defining & shaping process. because when their dug out from the earth their in rock/ore forms.

I'd point out Cybertron isn't exactly a naturally occurring planet having been reshaped or constructed by some outside force (in most cases Primus or the Allspark).

And speaking strictly scientifically... There is no way a planet could have an "organic core" like they say Cybertron has in Beast Machines. While a planet is forming, heavier elements such as iron and nickel sink into the middle forming the cores. And it's these elements making up the core that is pretty important for organic life to form, as it takes a spinning iron core like Earth has to generate an electromagnetic field that helps protect organic life from things like cosmic radiation. :ugeek:

Plannet cybertron in the 1980's G-1 cartoon was hinted at as once having a organic core.

All G1 shows is that some of the lower levels of Cybertron is made up of rock, but that in itself doesn't mean Cybertron has an "organic core". There are many rocky bodies in space that are made up of silicates, metals and other elements but lacks any "organic" qualities due to the absence of any life (rocks aren't organic unless they are made up of something that was once living, like limestone or coal). And the Key to Vector Sigma being able to alter organic matter into metal doesn't mean it was used on Cybertron.

In the marvel TF USA comics,both primus & unicron crashed into planets. thru time both primus & unicron escaped their planet prisions by reforming/reshaping the planets they crashed into.

Actually the Marvel Comics establishes Primus and Unicron were trapped within barren asteroids rather than actual planets.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Ursus mellifera » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:25 am

Sparky Prime wrote:
In the marvel TF USA comics,both primus & unicron crashed into planets. thru time both primus & unicron escaped their planet prisions by reforming/reshaping the planets they crashed into.

Actually the Marvel Comics establishes Primus and Unicron were trapped within barren asteroids rather than actual planets.


Yeah, I thought the Marvel comic had Primus purposely hiding himself in the asteroid, and then slowly building Cybertron around it.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Tigermegatron » Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:38 am

Answering this thread's subject header.

Megatron wasn't right. MEGATRON WAS WRONG?

WHY?

Because G-1 Megatron,was the reason planet cybertron is in the shape that it's in. megatron killed almost a entire planet full of cybertronians. because his main plan was always to rebuild cybertron into a traveling attack planet. controlling cybertron like a attack ship. attacking planets,killing the inhabitants. forcing the remaining survivors to become slaves/servants. stripping the destroyed planets of their resources then moving on to the next planet. all in a dream to control the universe by destroying it. then rebuilding it into one grand kingdom,where megatron leads & everyone else begs for scraps at megatron's feet.

As far a BW/BM Megatron goes. he was clearly inferior to G-1 megatron & a loser/idiot/incompetent compared to G-1 megatron. BW/BM megatron was insane,crazy & lacked the enducation/smarts to turn his evil scheme into one that had a ultimate good end plan.

BW/BM Megatron spent the good part of his life in jail. he was a mass murderor,theif & needed to be confined for his safety & others safety. this is a fine example why prisions exist.

BM Megatron didn't care about restoring any balance nor preserving the metal planet & it's metal bots origins. BM Megatron killed all the metal bots thru a virus before the maximals returned to cybertron. BM Megatron is selfish. He destroyed everything so he could remake everything into mindless drones that he controlled.

If BM Megatron was up to pure good. then he wouldn't have wanted a army of no persona robots who were drones. he didn't want happyness nor the greater good for his people. he killed them all because he was A crazy loon & hated anyone who could up stage his opinions/position.

Had BM Megatron been allowed to fulfil his dream. he would have created life less drones armies & rebuilt planet cybertron into a attack fortress. for the sole purpose of conquering other planets,killing their inhabitants. stealing their natural resources forcing the survivors into slaverly/servants. BM megatron would have tried to fulfil G-1 Megatron's plans as he looked up to him,took his name & kept files on him. need I remind everyone that BW started because BW Megatron was following G-1 megatron's orders/dream via a golden disk he found.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Shockwave » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:46 pm

BW/BM Megs is superior because he got a lot closer to the goal than G1 Megs. He actually did take over the planet. G1 Megs didn't.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Tigermegatron » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:56 pm

Shockwave wrote:BW/BM Megs is superior because he got a lot closer to the goal than G1 Megs. He actually did take over the planet. G1 Megs didn't.


G-1 Megatron in the 1980's TF cartoon series did take over cybertron. before MTMTE happened,megatron was already in charge of cybertron. after the transformers woke up on earth four million years later. Shockwave had further secured cybertron for megatron.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Shockwave » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:49 am

Tigermegatron wrote:
Shockwave wrote:BW/BM Megs is superior because he got a lot closer to the goal than G1 Megs. He actually did take over the planet. G1 Megs didn't.


G-1 Megatron in the 1980's TF cartoon series did take over cybertron. before MTMTE happened,megatron was already in charge of cybertron. after the transformers woke up on earth four million years later. Shockwave had further secured cybertron for megatron.


Yeah except for the assload of Autobots still fighting him. That's not having taken the whole planet. BW/BM Megs had the whole planet with no one to oppose him until the Maximals landed and even then, there were only 4 of them and they couldn't remember who they were and as such weren't a real threat until later on.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Onslaught Six » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:07 pm

BW Megs is dumb. What's a whole planet to rule without anyone to rule over?
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Shockwave » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:55 pm

Onslaught Six wrote:BW Megs is dumb. What's a whole planet to rule without anyone to rule over?


Peace and quiet? Relaxing? I dunno, I can think of a lot of advantages to being the only sentient thing on a planet.

Joking aside you actually do make a good point. I'd probably think that he was happy when the Maximals showed up if for no other reason than it's something to do.
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Re: Megatron Was Right...

Postby Tigermegatron » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:35 pm

Shockwave wrote:
Tigermegatron wrote:
Shockwave wrote:BW/BM Megs is superior because he got a lot closer to the goal than G1 Megs. He actually did take over the planet. G1 Megs didn't.


G-1 Megatron in the 1980's TF cartoon series did take over cybertron. before MTMTE happened,megatron was already in charge of cybertron. after the transformers woke up on earth four million years later. Shockwave had further secured cybertron for megatron.


Yeah except for the assload of Autobots still fighting him. That's not having taken the whole planet. BW/BM Megs had the whole planet with no one to oppose him until the Maximals landed and even then, there were only 4 of them and they couldn't remember who they were and as such weren't a real threat until later on.


In beastmachines,the reason why BM Megatron is badly damaged & on a life support harness when the BW Maximals arrive on cybertron. is because BM Megatron fought the dinobots led by magmatron & the beast mutants before the maximals returned home to cybertron. from the looks of it megatron got severe battle damage & needed to be attached to that life support harness.

In the first episode of the 1984 TF cartoon. megatron was successful at taking over planet cybertron. the autobots on cybertron were resistance fighters. after their 4 million sleep on earth,shockwave secured cybertron for megatron. the only one's fighting for control of cybertron after MTMTE episodes were the female autobots. shockwave was so strong he could fight the femeale autobots by himself.
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