Megatron Was Right...

[Sparky Prime]

Because it's easier...

Easier? How would it be easier?

[Onslaught Six]

O WOW GUYS CHECK OUT THIS FROOT I JUST FOUND ITS LIKE TOTALLY BETTER THAN ENERGON.

I never liked arguing with you, Sparky, mostly because sometimes it feels like you don't have a proper grasp on the facts. It's why I'm going to bow out of this one now.

[Dominic]

Because it's easier...

Easier? How would it be easier?

Think real world agriculture. I think that is where BWP was going with this.


Dom
-watching this thread carefully.

[Sparky Prime]

I never liked arguing with you, Sparky, mostly because sometimes it feels like you don't have a proper grasp on the facts.

WTF?! That has to be one of the most absurd things anyone has ever said to me. I don't go into an argument unless I have a "proper grasp" of what I'm talking about. And when it comes to Transformers, I know what I'm talking about.

Think real world agriculture. I think that is where BWP was going with this.

Well with agriculture, you have to take into consideration the conditions of the land, planting time, environment, lighting, watering, fertilizer, crop rotations, harvest time... It's a bit of a complex process and I'd have to say I think harvesting solar power or hydro power would be a great deal easier. Plus it's something the Maximals really don't have experience with. With out Botanica's help, their plants would have died.

[onslaught86]

Hrmm, I dunno. Consider the logistics of real-world agriculture and the time, planning, and maintenance it takes to get a good harvest vs. the very many examples of any form of energy being able to fill up an energon cube. Of course, come beast-era, they may need to refine energon considerably more, what with the raw crystals putting them in stasis lock and such. Still, there's far more precedent for cybertronian technology adapting to energy havesting with ease - after all, they did manage to drain Cybertron of its natural energy sources in G1.

[BWprowl]

Because it's easier...

Easier? How would it be easier?

Think real world agriculture. I think that is where BWP was going with this.


Dom
-watching this thread carefully.

My main point was that, instead of "Send out a bunch of scouting ships to scour other planets WAY out there for other forms of energy that might be there, while we experiment with stuff like solar and nuclear power back here on the planet" and all that other complicated crap that Sparky was going on about, it would be WAY easier to just go "Okay, let's just change the whole planet so that everyone on it is pretty much self-sustaining." *POOF-DONE!*

[Sparky Prime]

My main point was that, instead of "Send out a bunch of scouting ships to scour other planets WAY out there for other forms of energy that might be there, while we experiment with stuff like solar and nuclear power back here on the planet" and all that other complicated crap that Sparky was going on about, it would be WAY easier to just go "Okay, let's just change the whole planet so that everyone on it is pretty much self-sustaining." *POOF-DONE!*

Solar and hydro energy are both clean, renewable sources of energy. While designing Autobot city for TFTM, it was mentioned it was supposed to have things like a hydro-electric dam as a means of producing energon cubes. If the Autobots had such technology then it would not have been new or experimental by the Beast Era. With such technology, Cybertron pretty much already would be self-sustaining. Add on top of that, the population of the planet had downsized by the Beast Era to smaller, more energy efficient bodies suggesting the Maximals/Predacons had learned from their ancestors power consumption mistakes. Not to mention these technologies are not nearly as complicated to implement as reformatting the entire planet and learning about agriculture in order to provide crops for the entire planet.

[Mako Crab]

"POOF! DONE!" sounds better though.

[onslaught86]

I suppose if agriculture was the way they were going about it, it would be quite the change, but if it instead did just make each individual TF self-sufficient and able to regenerate their own energy supplies, it'd work out reasonably well.

I'll call this as BM's biggest failing. For all its waxings on the importance of balance and the seeds of the future, it never once told us 'why'.

[Onslaught Six]

And I agree muchly with that, but a lot of BM was about the journey and not the destination, in a sense.

I mean, I'm sure they *could* have fit in all that stuff about why, and gotten into the ins and outs of that, but then there'd probably have been no room for all those kickass Vehicon fight scenes, and interaction between the generals, and stuff like that. Plus, it probably wouldn't have made for a very entertaining and marketable series.

In a sense, in fact, BM was pretty much constantly trying to balance out these two sides of itself--you've got the actionny bits and kickass character development bits on the one end, and then you've got the epic philosophical debate on the other, and it's constantly trying to figure out which side it wants to go with. Thankfully (?) it leans towards the action and plot side moreso, and ends up really kickass for it.