Dominic wrote:Yeah, all the retards who do not get a reference to a comic from how many years ago? Oh yeah, total fucking noobs. We totally need a mainline comic building on obscure references.
This is exactly the shit that I am talking about when I complain that the hobby is getting too self-indulgent and insular.
That was actually my point, as it was meant to be a jab at the people that get into TF, then only pay attention to the Geewun stuff and completely ignore all the other series.
And that goes both ways! The people with exclusive interest in Beast Wars or Animated or whatever are just as bad/crazy.
I swear, there were people on /toy/ the other day who neither knew that Shockwave's altmode was a Giant Space Gun, nor what 'Are All Dead' was.
Chumps. They call themselves fans when they do not get references that are 25+ years old. Yeah, the information is there, and apparently being a fan mandates that somebody spend hours on the wiki just reading up on stuff. Yeah, I like the cover to Marvel issue 5 as much as anyone, but I do not see getting the reference as being *that* important.
I'll give you that "Are All Dead" isn't super-important, but come on, how can you not know what Shockwave's altmode is? That's just lazy. That's like my concurrent point with Jazz and Prowl's G1 toys. At no point in their whining did these people say, "Wow, that Generations Jazz sure looks like Prowl. I wonder if G1 Jazz's toy was like that too? I suppose I could spend three seconds Googling it or something." I mean, you're a fan of *Transformers*, robots that *transform* into stuff. If you're just getting in and you hear people go on about a fan-favorite like Shockwave, one of your first instincts isn't to look on TFwiki for a split second to at least find out what the dude turns into? (and incidentally, look at just look at the
first image TFwiki gives you on Shockwave's page). I dunno, I really do hate to throw around 'true fan' talk, but a lot of these people come across like posers who don't care about TF nearly as much as they try to act like they do.
I mean, when I was a kid just getting into the fandom, I really DID spend hours reading up on TFs, just because I liked it *that much*. And this was before we had a legitimate wiki, I was perusing transcribed TFU profiles on Unicron.com and looking at their pictures of old toys (really I was mostly interested in the toys, as I always have been). If TFwiki had been around when I was in middle/high school, I really would never have gotten anything done then.
EDIT: Oh fuck and then there was the guy who got Warpath because he thought he was a Decepticon, then got pissed off once he had him in hand and realized he was an Autobot, since he "didn't look like one". Yeah.
Actually, yeah, that is pretty stupid. (Look at the damned package, or even the product listings.)
Like I told ya, you'd be surprised. Warpath caught this level of stupid at least twice actually, since there was another guy who didn't want him because he thought he was another repaint of Straxus.
But I digress. Heh, I kind of like the idea that the 'Dead Universe' Galvatron and Nova Prime discovered was actually the Armada Universe.
200 words or less, how? (I smell fanfic.)
I dunno, it just seems like a dumb, silly idea that Furman would actually attempt. Have we ever actually seen inside the Dead Universe? Maybe they just call it that and it's perfectly alive. Arcee and Springer seemed okay, at any rate. For all we know they just become 'un-killable' because once they jump universes they get quantum-displaced or some stupid shit like that. Oh, and on top of that, it's hinted as having a strong connection to Unicron. And where did Unicron's essence spend a lot of time a few years ago? That's right.
Well shit, there you go: The Dead Universe is the Unicron Trilogy Universe, after having been finally completely consumed by the Unicron Singularity. I am a goddamn writer and IDW should hire me right now.
It's kind of funny to see Dom call me out on some of that, considering he's the guy who thinks kids shouldn't even be allowed to buy the toys.